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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We likely live in a simulation.

Assuming it's possible to create a simulation, the odds of us being in a simulation is 50%

But if you can create one simulation, maybe you can create 1 million. Or maybe you can create nested simulations.

So even if the chance of creating a simulation is 1%, but the creation of one simulation means millions are created, the odds of us living in a simulation are above 99.99%.

Another theory is the Boltzmann Brain. Basically the idea that a brain can spontaneously appear in space:

By one calculation, a Boltzmann brain would appear as a quantum fluctuation in the vacuum after a time interval of 10^10^50 years.

Which means if the universe lasts forever, but has already reached a point where worlds can't form, there's infinite time for something as complex as a brain to suddenly spawn. Which also means it's more likely that you don't exist and are just a brain that will last for a nanosecond before disappearing, and none of this is real. In fact, in a universe that lasts forever, the fact you are a brain that will disappear in a nanosecond is more likely than you being a human with a real past.

[–] TinyShonk@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's been a looooong nanosecond.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

That's what you think!

[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

My BS, unprovable hypothesis: The Golden Age of Piracy was actually a successful Socialist movement, with Nassau being a disruptively successful enclave of Socialism in action. The pirates deeply threatened the budding power structures in the US (not conjecture) and the entrenched powers in Europe. While some powers, most notably royalty, were willing to use pirates as mercenaries (privateers), there was an excess of democracy and human concern (somewhat my conjecture) among the Nassau pirates. The Nassau pirates had pensions, a form of worker's comp, disability, democratic command structures at sea, and healthcare (such as it was given the era). According to the historical texts on the Nassau pirates, there were almost no written records, which strikes me as especially odd since they had so many long-running financial and governing processes.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That consciousness is real and not an illusion

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

But reality is just experienced through consciousness so what would that reality be?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 hours ago

Even though I feel like I might ignite, I probably won't.

[–] Okami_No_Rei@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

"Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most.

That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that love... true love never dies.

You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.

You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in."

  • Hub, Secondhand Lions (2003)
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Most of my moral convictions aren't provable because the most basic ideas are simply axioms. "You should be a good person" cannot be justified in a way that's non-circular, and defining "good" is also similarly arbitrary. The only true "evidence" is that people tend to agree on vague definitions in theory. Which is certainly a good thing, imo, but it's not actually provable that what we consider "good" is actually the correct way to act.

I have started creating a moral framework, though. I've been identifying and classifying particular behaviors and organizing them in a hierarchy. So far it's going pretty well. At least my arbitrariness can be well-defined!

[–] Lux18@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

You should watch The Good Place and/or read the book How to be Perfect by Michael Schur. He made the show too.

He starts from the same standpoint as you and then explores moral philosophy to find answers.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

I think it is easy enough to argue without making it circular. As for "good", I don't think an objective absolute and universal definition is necessary.

The argument would be to consider it an optimization problem, and the interesting part, what the fitness function is. If we want to maximise happiness and freedom, any pair of people is transient. If it matters that they be kind to you, it is the exact same reasoning for why you should be to kind to them. Kinda like the "do unto others", except less prone to a masochist going around hurting people.

[–] oessessnex@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago)

I'm also playing with the idea, of considering "good" as global optimization of freedom.

Here is what I was thinking lately:

Imagine there is a cage, once you enter the cage you cannot leave, so your freedom is restricted. Should you be allowed to enter the cage? What's more important freedom to make a choice or freedom of having choices?

Real world examples that are related to this: entering a monastery, addiction to hard drugs, euthanasia.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

If we want to maximise happiness and freedom

But that's what I'm saying, that choice is axiomatic. I think most people would agree, but it's a belief, not an unquestionable truth. You're choosing something to optimize and defining that to be good.

If it matters that they be kind to you, it is the exact same reasoning for why you should be to kind to them

Only if you believe that everyone fundamentally deserves the same treatment. It's easy to overlook an axiom like that because it seems so obvious, but it is something that we have chosen to believe.

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[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] theherk@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Also, that all non-trivial Riemann zeros in the critical band are at 1/2.

[–] Pyflixia@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 23 hours ago

When we die, we're recycled. There's no Heaven, Hell, Rainbow Bridge, Valhalla .etc Because those are man-made constructs to give people a sense of belonging based on what you did in life. Someone talked to me about the Egg Theory and while I have a bit of skepticism towards it, I do understand a plausibility about it.

And if anything from the Egg Theory is true, then cool, I'd love nothing more than to be recycled and born into a life from the past to live it out again.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

When people are left to enter deals and economic arrangements as they see fit, it produces the most overall wealth, both for those at the top and those at the bottom of the economic hierarchy.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

the libertarian pipe dream

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

You're right, but we don't care because wealth has diminishing marginal returns on utility.

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