What's sad to me is seeing that they are banned in other countries and these companies have already adjusted their recipes for those countries. They chose to keep the more dangerous chemicals in the US because they weren't forced to change. The US seems to not care about it's citizens
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Yep. They're banned here in Canada so a shit ton of American food is just illegal here across the border. It's kind of insane that it went on this long. The whole "Red M&Ms are illegal in Europe" thing has been known for a while.
Companies, like people, always act in self interest, so it makes sense.
In the long run out seems like you could sell more shit if your customers are alive but it would cut into quarterly profits and that's what really matters.
They don't care about the company's future beyond their own personal gains from it.
Tbh, I doubt that they would care in the slightest if the entire company closed the day after they left/retired. It seems like almost all CEOs have that target these days.
The US absolutely doesn't care about its citizens.
capitalism is so cool. you'd think it'd be easier to just have one recipe for everywhere but noo
Oh, easier, sure. But the spreadsheet says!!
The FDA banned Red Dye 3 ~30 years ago... for cosmetics. Can't put it in makeup, but food? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Gotta wonder how much money it took to make the FDA look the other way.
It's surprisingly cheap to buy politicians and officials, like a couple of grand would do it
That's fine. Red Peeps are an abomination unto the lord. The one true Peep is the yellow Peep.
Amen!
Had to Google these:
Potassium bromate is in flour and baked goods.
Brominated vegetable oil is in certain sodas.
Propylparaben is in certain packaged snacks like trail mix and muffins
Potassium Bromate is used in many industrial baking products, it strengthens gluten. This is important commercially because it gives a stronger bread product in a shorter time. The regular flour you buy for home use does not contain it, though some 'bread mixes' have, at least previously.
It's great that it is being banned, it should have been a long time ago.
It's sad when even China bans it before us.
why is it bad?
It was found to give rats tumors. So cancer risk.
At what dosage/concentration for how long though. I’ve seen studies like this with rat tumors. But in a few I remember, you’d have to consume an inhumanly impossible amount daily for years to be equivalent to what they were forcing on rats.
Either way, I’m all for less toxic shit in the food supply.
So the ingredients have been broken down for us, but if we out them back together Red Dye #3 does have proven strange effects in children. (Adults? I dont personally know).
Brominated Vegetable Oil is one of the top ingredients in Mountain Dew, and I wouldn't doubt that Red Dye No. 3 is in the LiveWire version.
They stopped using it in 2020 in all PepsiCo products. So at least that's a move in the right direction.
About time. My wife was floored by all the weird-colored shit in the US. It's also why some of my childhood guilty pleasure snacks are banned for sale as-is here
I was hoping potassium bromate was on there. Even China has banned it.
You know a food additive is bad when the country that's known for gutter oil and fake eggs also finds this ingredient unsafe
Don't forget the plastic rice.
It’s is on there. Just won’t be implemented this year.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/09/health/california-governor-bans-red-dye-no-3-wellness/index.html
Imagine if the FDA did its job instead of forcing individual states to do it for them. California doesn’t always get things right, but god damn is this a massive W.
Worth noting the EU probably didn't "make" them illegal.
The US requires a substance to be proven dangerous to be banned from use in food substances, the EU requires it to be proven safe to be allowed for use in food substances.
But…. What about… love potion #9?
It makes you kiss cops. I don't recommend it.
Well that’s why it should be banned, yeah.
On the other hand, you do have a chance of a relationship with Sandra Bullock, so there's highlights and lowlights.
Newsom gonna have carpal tunnel in his wrist after all this signing he's been doing lately.
Funny enough I used to be allergic to red dye as a kid as it made my skin break out
That reminds me - are there viable alternatives to each of these?
I don't know about the rest, but red dye there is, and one of those includes just not using it. Dye is a marketing tool that isn't necessary for the product.
Red Dye #3 is not commonly used in the United States anymore. Instead, Red Dye #40 is used and works just fine as a safe replacement.
Brominated Vegetable Oil is used to emulsify flavor oils into water and is commonly used in citrus soft drinks. Sucrose Acetate Isobutyrate and Glycerol Ester of Wood Rosin are both be used for the same purpose.
Potassium Bromide is added to flour to strengthen dough, allowing for a greater rise during baking. It appears that Ascorbic Acid (vitamin C) can replace much of its use.
Propylparaben is an antifungal preservative that is used in packaged baked goods to prevent mold. There are other preservatives that can be used, but it sounds like parabens are the most effective for preserving non-acidic foods. I assume that propylparaben will be replaced by some other paraben.
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