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[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 31 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

1000005010. Don't feed the troll πŸ’©

[–] iii@mander.xyz 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As long as you don't care when the electricity is produced

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 5 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

Storage is a solvable problem. Whereas we don't have the resources to power the world with nuclear plants.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 3 points 30 minutes ago

Storage is a solvable problem

I'm not convinced it is. Storage technologies exist for sure, but the general public seems to grossly underestimate the scale of storage required to match grid demand and renewables only production.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

No it's about nuclear waste and where to store it, it's about how expensive it is to build a nuclear power plant (bc of regulations so they don't goo boom) and it's about how much you have to subsidize it to make the electricity it produces affordable at all. Economically it's just not worth it. Renewables are just WAY cheaper.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 11 minutes ago

No it's about nuclear waste and where to store it,

Is this video inaccurate? This isn't meant as a gotcha comment. https://youtu.be/4aUODXeAM-k

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 25 points 2 hours ago

Funny how people think waste is why we don't use nuclear power.

You noticed how we're all fine breathing in poison and carcinogens? Still haven't banned burning fossil fuels.

It's a money problem and a PR problem

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 0 points 53 minutes ago

Renewable are so cheap, especially when we don't need as much energy! Fortunately we won't need as much energy in winter now. :-)

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 hours ago

Fire's waste is just all particulates in the air which we all share.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 56 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Funny how nuclear power plants are taboo, but building thousands of nuclear warheads all over the globe is no issue.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Funny how building nuclear power plants that can only (if you have dipshits running them) kill a nearby city is taboo, but climate change that will kill everyone is acceptable to the moralists.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -1 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

A nuclear power plant cannot destroy a city.

[–] Batbro@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 minutes ago

I guess destroy != Make unlivable

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Funny how solar, wind, and batteries are way cheaper and faster to build yet people are still talking about nuclear.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 2 points 1 hour ago

If only people weren't fearmongering about nuclear 50 years ago we'd have clean energy today.

"The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, second best is now"

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 hours ago

Stopping nuclear from being built is the problem.

We would have had a lot more clean energy than we do by now if we let the nuclear power plants that "would take too long to build!" be built back then, because they'd be up and running by now.

More letting perfect be the enemy of good.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Funny how whataboutism makes your audience defensive.

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm in Missouri so apparently I'm surrounded by silos

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 31 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The problem isn't that they exploded one time. The problem is that that one explosion is still happening and likely will be for quite a while.

On the other hand, modern rock exploding plant designs are so much better that it's very unlikely to repeat itself, so there's that.

[–] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago

I'm sure the other rock/liquid/gas burning plants have had no issues along their lifetime and had no hand in demonizing the "new" slowly exploding rock technology after extreme negligence let the one big one happen. /s

I'd take the band aid of nuclear in my backyard vs what we rely on now after learning all of the insider knowledge of someone who personally worked in energy generation that did all of this plus renewables almost their entire professional life.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 31 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Paraphrased but this is right.

And the people were taught to talk about the horrible nuclear accidents that killed a few but completely glance over the unimaginable millions perished in the name of oil, mustn't even mention the mass extinction events we launched with oil.

We even spread exaggerated bullshit about radiation mutation (wtf? thats superhero comic books fiction!!) and cancer rates (only one really), ignoring how much overwhelmingly more of the both we get from fossil fuel products.

We are like prehistoric people going extinct bcs of the tales how generations ago someone burned down their house so fire bad. Well, actually not like that - we are taking with us a lot of species & entire ecosystems too.

[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's more like "Bob and Jim died in a fire a while ago, so everyone decided to put up with heaps of people dying to hypothermia and uncooked meat"

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The local undertaker family tells the story about Bob and Jim once a week to the whole village (attendance is mandatory).

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago

We're all stories in the end.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

β€œTed Kennedy killed more people than Three Mile Island” - Bumper sticker.

That’s said, I facepalm at Fukushima. And desperately want more modern systems

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 49 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You're right to reject the logic behind that because it's nonsense. Its not making sense to them because they still presume some kind of good faith when it come to these sorts of things.

The reason we haven't built more nuclear power stations is because oil, gas and coal companies will make less money, if we build more nuclear power stations.

They have the means, the motive and they have a well recorded history of being that cartoonishly villainous. Nothing else makes sense.

[–] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago

It's crazy that Mr. Burns from the Simpsons was in nuclear and not coal or oil. Probably a product of the propaganda at the time.

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Three Mile Island and Chernobyl really did change things. Prior to those incidents there were plans to build over 50 more nuclear plants in place which got canceled as a result. Currently oil and gas industries will do all they can to keep nuclear from making a come back, but for a long time they didn't have to do shit thanks to those catastrophes.

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