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Serious question, I don't recall what exactly it was.

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[–] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 7 points 5 hours ago

In addition to what everyone else said, which is basically right, I suspect that reddit has thorough data and research tracking how topics are discussed en-masse and how narratives form across the site. I would wager that we were visible enough to actually make a dent in the liberal centrist "hive mind" and they had an incentive to snuff us out before our ideas started to affect the general vibes of the place by providing coherent, popular, and catchy anti-capitalist and anti-American sentiments

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 12 points 7 hours ago

This isn't the right question. The right question is why cth3 got banned for hate speech when it clearly hated speech.

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 13 points 8 hours ago

Honestly, being banned for saying "kill slave owners" was sick as fuck. Reminds me off thallman death scene

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 36 points 11 hours ago

We were inciting violence against long dead historical figures. That's the official reason. In reality reddit has consistently b& subreddits which turn a critical lens on the rest of the site.

The earliest one I can remember being a part of was the r/shitredditsays community which helped expose a bunch of child porn adjacent and other gross communities and misanthropic power users. Nothing was done about these communities until the efforts of r/SRS to shed light on them were picked up by more mainstream media platforms. This resulted in the questionable communities being banned (they mostly just popped back up under different names) and also the r/SRS subreddit network being banned.

Reddit will tolerate circlejerk and drama communities, but once people actually take intra-site activism seriously they shut that shit down ASAP every time because advertisers tend to recoil in horror once they learn what the platform actually hosts.

The dynamics are a bit different these days now that platforms are being co-opted by well funded political parties and their subsidiary support orgs.

[–] abc@hexbear.net 39 points 12 hours ago

Kill ALL slave owners john brown did nothing wrong

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 57 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

/r/cth was the only subreddit openly cheering the George Floyd uprising and subsequent race riots; we had dope pictures of the precinct and cars going up in flames.

It didn’t help as a mod, I’d re-approve removed comments which I thought did not deserve it. 😅

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 18 points 11 hours ago

We love our mods! 07

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 30 points 12 hours ago
[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 36 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

it was saying that it was good to kill slave owners and that john brown did nothing wrong. and not removing posts that said that even though reddit told the mods that they had to take it down cuz it was "violent rhetoric."

[–] miz@hexbear.net 31 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

larger context was Bernie being shut out of the primary and George Floyd

https://www.mintpressnews.com/jessica-ashooh-reddit-national-security-state-plant/277639/

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 27 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

And cause bash the fash is apparently hate speech, and cth was one of the last one to ban it.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 15 points 12 hours ago

It's hate speech toward a protected class: cops

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 23 points 12 hours ago

r/cth had gained some amount of notoriety in the public eye years before even the quarantine. It was a meme that the subreddit was more popular than the podcast.

I went digging and here were some posts from the r/cth mods when communicating about the quarantine.

August 2019: 3 weeks ago the admin sodypop sent us a warning. Here’s the text of my response that never got answered. The admins are disingenuous lib nerds.

September 2019: Announcement: Quarantine Appeal Sent

Before the quarantine there was a shadow war with r/TD. r/cth got sabotaged by r/TD sympathizers back in 2018 so brazenly it made Mother Jones

The moderators’ changes came two weeks ago, after a group of leftists users from the r/ChapoTrapHouse podcast subreddit had allegedly “brigaded” r/Libertarian. (“Brigading” is a Reddit term for when outside users come into a group to troll it by downvoting posts.) One of r/Libertarian’s moderators, Reddit user rightc0ast, and new moderators that rightc0ast brought on between December 6 and 7, argued that they needed to tighten the group’s laissez-faire rules to protect it from outside trolling.

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The subreddit’s users, along with posters in other libertarian subreddits like r/LibertarianUncensored and r/LibertarianPartyUSA, immediately decried the changes as a departure from libertarian ethos while calling attention to the background of users behind the change. Most of the five new moderators have a posting history showing them taking part in r/The_Donald, an infamous pro-Trump subreddit, and r/Physical_Removal, a subreddit dedicated to the idea of eventually forcibly removing liberals and leftists from society that was banned in 2017 for “posting content that incites violence.” Two of the moderators who helped engineer the changes—one has since been removed—had previously voiced support for the regime of Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet and debated the merits of fascism.

Rightc0ast, who played a key role in taking over the group by inviting new allied moderators, has a particularly troubling trail of posts across Reddit. In August 2017, Rightc0ast promoted the then-upcoming Unite The Right white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Virginia. The white nationalist provocateur has also backed the idea of an ethnostate and supported the Fash The Nation podcast, which was created by a neo-Nazi blog. On Reddit, he was a moderator of r/The_Donald and a moderator of r/Physical_Removal.

Bonus find while searching for the aboveA Short History of LF: The Original Dirtbag Left/Weird Twitter

About SomethingAwful's old Left section that was the :cool-zone: where all the hip kids hung out, making everybody jealous.

Eventually calls for violence grew louder. At one point, the Secret Service contacted Lowtax (who runs SA) about all the constant death threats to the president-which in retrospect is hilarious.

...

LF was becoming a left-wing version of /pol/ (albeit with a lot less real world impact) and was being put down. At one point everyone who posted in the forum was given the av with "certified forum cancer" and their texted greyed out unless you hovered over it (yes seriously). Then finally by around late 2011 it got shut down.

NEVER STOP POSTING!

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 67 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

A CIA op. Like literally a former CIA agent had just been brought in as a community manager.

Also this https://networkcontagion.us/reports/network-enabled-anarchy/

Take a drink every time you read "anarch-socialist extremism" and try not to die of alcohol poisoning.

If you ctrl f chapotraphouse you can see where we are mentioned.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Correction: NCRI removed “ISIS” from the report’s initial comparison table because many interpreted this claim to mean NCRI was depicting Anarchists/Socialist threats as the same magnitude of ISIS.

Lmao Jesus christ

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

oh yeah we clowned on them so hard over it they had to issue a retraction.

This is the table in question, all they did was change "ISIS" to "organized jihadi group"

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 4 points 3 hours ago

I wish the left was half as organized as this shit assumes

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Anacho-Socialist extremists are really serious about not eating Mexican snacks.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago

lmao I forgot they repeatedly misspelled it

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh this is ringing bells! I remember this being talked about at the time.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 16 points 12 hours ago

Yeah we did a drinking game with it back on the lifeboat discord and I got wayyy too fucked up.

[–] this_dude_eating_beans@hexbear.net 45 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

I remember the last post on there was a thread saying "if this place gets banned then thanks for being the only non-trans specific subr*ddit that actually gives a shit about us on this site" and then the sub got nuked

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This was the post. I saved it.

My final comment on r/cth in that very thread. I refreshed the page a few minutes after and it was gone.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 15 points 11 hours ago

Best way to go out, to be honest

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 22 points 12 hours ago

My posts were just too good and it was making the deep state nervous

[–] YoungSheldonAdelson@hexbear.net 47 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

reddit-logo banned r/The_Donald that day too. Reddit admins wanted to seem fair & balanced as if they hadn’t been profiting off of allowing several openly white nationalist hate subreddits to infest their platform for years until it was absolutely necessary to ban them to save their ad dollars and IPO prospects.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 23 points 12 hours ago

It's also worth nothing that r/The_Donald's userbase had moved off of reddit to one of their fashie sites months ago, and the subreddit had been completely dead for months when they banned it.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If I remember right tho The Donald had already mostly moved off of Reddit by that point, the sub was pretty much dead

[–] miz@hexbear.net 16 points 12 hours ago

yeah it had been a ghost town for months, they had moved to thedonald.win

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is jogging my memory now. I remember when The_Donald was banned and people talking about CTH getting banned too. Gotta cut each end of the horseshoe right?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 14 minutes ago

Except the_donald had already left.

Reddit wanted to ban cth so they banned both the sub with 10s of thousands of comments a day and the one with 6 active users to "combat extremism"

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The_donald broadcasted unite the right wherein a fascist killed heather heyer

Cth just said words that offended capitalist sensibilities

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 4 points 9 hours ago

They had a thread about Unite the Right where the OP was ”I know ’ethnostate’ people are going to be there, but that's the price we have to pay”, they weren't even subtle about associating with Nazis and promoted far more violence than CTH ever did, yet the sub was allowed to exist for years.

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 21 points 13 hours ago

It’s also interesting how this is happening with llms

Rhetoric that threatens existing power structures has no room to linger. Since fascism still shares a lot of traits with unmitigated and decaying capital (in addition to the fact that LLMs are trained on Reddit) it hangs around much longer than leftist rhetoric that is openly hostile to the bourgeois.

It’s all an escape from propaganda babeeeeeee

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 45 points 15 hours ago

Calling for killing cops and slave owners, just based stuff.

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 25 points 14 hours ago

It was popular and sorta leftist. As long as those two conditions existed it was doomed. If it were not banned for one particular post it would have been for another convenient or contrived reason.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Saying slavers should get shot. Bunch of crybaby shitlibs reported us for "violent rhetoric" and reddit had to ban something on the left to seem even handed because it was banning the_Donald at the same time.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 33 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The Donald was long dead already they banned the Donald to seem even handed because they had been planning to ban cth

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 13 points 13 hours ago

My bad, that's what it was. I remember that false equivalent bullshit but I guess I remembered it backwards

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 32 points 15 hours ago
[–] Zoift@hexbear.net 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it was me sorry. I finally posted hog and it was considered too hot for Reddit to handle so they banned me, and every sub i had ever posted in just to be sure. My B.

[–] JohnBrownsBawdy@hexbear.net 2 points 8 hours ago

Hog’d out and log’d out

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago

Your hog was so epic that I made it my whole personality

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 14 hours ago

The had to purge some nazi subreddits but they wanted to appear 'balanced' so they selected the most popular left wing subs and removed them as well

[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 11 points 13 hours ago

We will never know the real reason.