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The US’s approval for Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied ATACMS missiles, capable of striking targets nearly 200 miles away, marks a significant escalation in Ukraine’s ability to retaliate against Russian aggression.

The move, coming after intense lobbying by Kyiv, allows Ukraine to target Russian positions with more precision and destruction than prior weapons.

Russia has condemned the decision as a provocation risking world war.

Analysts suggest the policy shift, reportedly limited to Russia’s Kursk region, aligns with U.S. efforts to support Ukraine without triggering broader conflict.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 78 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The commencement of whining about how the victim defending themselves is horribly unfair, unreasonable, and must be stopped at all costs, is always a feature of bullying. I don’t know why, but it is.

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 36 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

When the bullied shows up with a gun, the bully suddenly tries peace.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 42 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Putin could end this at any moment, by withdrawing.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

He never pulls out. Ask Trump.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

He's still pushing that limb rope...

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

It's still so weird they don't refer to Ukraine in any quality, it's always about them fighting the EU and the US because it makes their struggles look less pathetic.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 38 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Russia brought another country in to fight. Full stop. Theatrics.

And I think it’s likely. And it’s their fault.

Edit: We lose too, btw. Head in the clouds, cocks in our hands, and then everyone is going to wonder why the power went out and the taps went dry on day one.

I swear half the US wants it because they think they’ll wipe the floor gg and go back to drinking.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

For any of this to lead to "world war" one of two things has to happen:

  1. The US directly enters the war on the side of Ukraine - If this didn't happen at any point in the last two years, it's not suddenly going to happen now. And it's not more likely to happen because the US "provokes" Russia, so it's irrelevant anyway.

  2. Russia directly attacks a NATO country - Why would Russia ever do this? They can't even defeat a NATO aligned independent nation. How the fuck would they ever have a hope in hell of defeating all of NATO? In what possible way would they benefit from escalating the war?

Russia claiming that American "provocations" will lead to world war is meaningless because the reality is that for them to be "provoked" into starting a war they would have to be provoked into voluntarily deleting their entire country.

No matter how badly this hypothetical world war 3 goes for anyone else, even if - no, especially if - it becomes a total nuclear war, the one guarantee is that Russia loses. And they lose hard. Putin's best case scenario here is great he Hitler's himself in a bunker in a few years and that's if he's lucky.

So unless Putin and every single person in his orbit have joined a suicide cult and are already cooking up a big old bowl of spicy Kool-Aid, there is no reason whatsoever to take these claims seriously.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 33 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

In less than two months, Putin will control the US military.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I just retired from the US military. I'd hate to be serving while that dictator asshole comes back. I was still serving the first time he took office and it was bad times for us. We were able to push back on his more extreme demands of the military, but we don't have a Democrat-controlled govt to keep him in check this time around.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

More importantly, we don't have any morally upstanding senators with the balls to hold the fucking Republicans in line. Even McCain had to find out he was dying of brain cancer before he stood against the machine to defend the right to healthcare.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but there aren't any Republicans left that will do that.

Mitt might, but it's not a guarantee.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Gotta use up all the good missiles before then.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Russian Officials say a lot of things

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I'm kind of hopeful, actually, that the fact that they are publically whining so much about escalating to a world war is an indication that they don't have the means to do so, short of going Nuclear, and I think even Putin realizes how that will end up.

I mean, he is already bringing in foreign fighters. isn't that a concession that Russian fighters can't do the job in Ukraine themselves? If they had the means to escalate while still fighting in Ukraine, they wouldn't whine about it, they would just do it.

I'm not even sure they can go nuclear. Nukes are expensive to maintain, and Putin buddies have been embezzling that money for a long time.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 hours ago

What's extra sickening to me, is that this cat has no trouble operating under the assumption that his own life, and power, and glory, are worth these unending untold thousands of other lives, when in actuality his life is worth less than any one of these soldiers'.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Newsflash: there is already a war. A one Russia can end tomorrow if they fuck off back into their borders.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

Uh huh. Sure thing boss.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 3 points 3 hours ago

Worldwide special military operation

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] Name@feddit.nu 1 points 4 hours ago

🙄 so could javelins

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Bark bark bark

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Russian officials? Fuck those guys