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[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 8 points 5 hours ago
[–] context@hexbear.net 20 points 12 hours ago

biden-harbinger we will fight putin to the very. last. ukrainian.

[–] x87_floatingpoint@hexbear.net 48 points 16 hours ago

Destroying that country's future and killing hundreds of thousands of young people for the sake of a proxy war against Russia doomjak

USA indeed is the child-killer and the great satan.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 45 points 16 hours ago

18 is so young. They haven't even lived. Literal teenagers. This is monstrous, I don't even have words. No amount of blood is enough for these people.

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 51 points 17 hours ago

Ukraine : Why a 15 year old is not a "child soldier"

-2025 Opinion piece

[–] FidelChadstro@hexbear.net 40 points 17 hours ago

Damn, Ukrainians should votezelensky-navi out if he does this...

Lol oh wait he cancelled elections

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 62 points 19 hours ago

And here we go. Endgame is here. Mobilizing every single man didn't save Germany in 1945, and it won't save the fascists again today either.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 57 points 18 hours ago

Lmao at all the people telling us were just evil for not wanting children fed into a woodchipper to keep up Lockheed margins stock price.

[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 84 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

given that this war didn't start as an existential threat for ukraine in the slightest, it's very interesting how determined people are to make it one

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 39 points 17 hours ago

That's the worst part of this, Ukraine and Russia could have come to terms at basically any point through this, but the West keeps stringing Ukraine along with promises of support/NATO membership.

But instead a few hundred thousand people are killed and maimed, cities are leveled, and the land is salted with uxo that will continue to kill and main for generations to come.

And if you ask your average Natoid they'll say it's worth it "to bleed Russia" because thats what they've been conditioned to say from birth. The West is really willing to fight to the last Ukrainian, just like they're willing to feed any of their past proxies into woodchippers.

It's all so fucking bleak, and NATO leaders seem fine with repeatedly provoking Russia and escalating the war. Not that it's anything new of course, the entire Cuban missile crisis is still framed as "those evil soviets wanted to base missiles right next to America to bypass warning systems, how dastardly! American missiles were already based in Turkey for the same reasons? Never heard of it!"

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 19 hours ago

pretty surreal to watch western media talk about how the west is helping Ukraine

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What's wild to me is that there hasn't been any significant resistance from within Ukraine to their own leadership sacrificing them all to Russia

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

CW: mention of torture, murder

From what I understand state repression has been very thorough for a long time. They shut down all opposition media, all opposition parties, and their internal police have been hunting dissidents to be tortured, imprisoned, or killed. Many, many people have fled the country. They've also presumably got all of NATO's intelligence goons helping them out to suppress dissent.

There has been a lot of dissent and resistance the whole time. There's been a great deal of refusal to to show up at draft offices, large bodies of troops have abandoned the front to the point where the army has been offering all kinds of perks to keep soldiers in place. idk the extent or if it's organized and whatever is happening is certainly being suppressed to keep it out of the media, but there is resistance. Ukraine isn't a monolith.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Just surprising that there hasn't been enough of an organized resistance to hear anything about it. There are millions of Ukrainians who have left the country and aren't being repressed by their government who could be speaking out or organizing in some way

[–] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think something to consider here is anyone who fled to the West would live under the threat of being returned if they went against what their receiving country wants.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I think there were pushes to round up would-be conscripts and deport them back to Ukraine to ~~fight~~ die. I remember reading about it either being implemented or discussed a while back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis

NATOpedia says that ~3.7m conscription aged men are either dead, fled, or in hiding.

Several social media groups containing tens of thousands of members were created to alert men to the movements of mobilization officers so they could evade confrontation.

Yeah, looks like there is organized resistance. We're just not hearing about it much.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-needs-soldiers-fight-russia-men-dodging-draft-zelenskyy-rcna152121

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 54 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Absolute demographic disaster desolate

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 8 points 13 hours ago

It was even before the war and now it is Thirty-Years War-level.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 67 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They really did mean "To the last Ukrainian".

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 48 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What's so gut-wrenching about this whole situation is the extent to which liberals are just using the Ukrainians as a blunt instrument to kill Russians and make Putin lose.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 14 hours ago

Yeah. They raised up an entire generation of kids to believe Nazi shit and now they're firing them off like bullets in their new cold war.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 33 points 18 hours ago

Time to empty out the grade schools, if the war isn't won then there's no need to keep educating them. pigmask-off

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 62 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 47 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully most of them escaped over the past two years.

[–] jUzzo6@hexbear.net 36 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Only ones from rich families. Poor ones are still there, to be used as sacrificial lambs.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 15 points 14 hours ago

Same as it ever was
same-as-it-ever-was

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 16 points 16 hours ago

America: Ayy is it feminism when we make sure every last man is dead?

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 59 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

When they lose this war or are forced to negotiate with Russia there's going to be a lot of pissed of neo-nazis with an axe to grind with the USA for fueling this losing meat grinder.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's not going to help that they'll see the US as being more worried about Israel. It'll spur actual antisemitism.

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago

Tbf, It's not like the Ukro-nazis are going to be entirely wrong about Israel getting priority over them, especially if they have access to some of the insane shit that American liberals have been saying for the last year and a half. As soon as the October Revolt happened in Gaza, Ukraine was tossed aside and left to bleed out.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 13 points 14 hours ago

Hopefully the neo-nazis end up in the meat grinder

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 19 hours ago

The betrayal narrative is already starting to take root in Ukraine.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 45 points 19 hours ago

When they lose this war ~~or~~ and are forced to negotiate with Russia

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 30 points 19 hours ago
[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 17 points 18 hours ago

I think this is the fastest goof to Lathe moment I have experienced

I sure hope the proletariat will rise to make me pancakes soon

I really want some waffles