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Since the "Ciri ugly" complaints were too ridiculous they are switching to lore reasons (hexbear.net)
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[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I don't go around discoursing about video games, but if I was gonna make a Ciri game, I wouldn't make her a fuckin' witcher.

She can hop dimensions and teleport, for fucks sake there's a much more interesting story to be had than what the trailer indicates they're doing.

Really am not thrilled by this, but I'm still gonna play this slop and this is genuinely me being a weirdo about the lore and knowing what kind of potential her character has - "witcher" is the most boring thing they could've done.

But dont lump me in with the g*mers i dont care that much and i still adore ciri lol

[–] hexbee@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

Caring about video games is ok. The difference is that the point you're making isn't based on a genocidal need for erasure of certain people catgirl-disgust

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I'm trying to remember if Ciri taking the witcher concoction is canon (the books) or fake (the game). It's been too long to remember and I'm not reading all that again lol.

They should have just pissed everyone off and made a spin-off about Regis the Vampire.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As best I can recall (as someone who read all the books and played all the games), Ciri never underwent the mutations in either the books or the game. In one of the endings of W3, she becomes a "Witcher" but imo it was always implied that she was just going to use her own ludicrously overpowered abilities and didn't really need the potions etc.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeh. If i understand matters witchers are one of the less powerful magical beings in the setting and are restricted by the high mortality rate of their profession and their very limited and specific skill set.

Geralt is an absolute monster of a combatant, but in the end he's still brought down by a mob of normal humans (in the books).

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

He is incredibly powerfull, but a mage specializing in combat magic wipes the floor with him.

Overall witchers seem to be jack of all trades, some useful magic, some very good close combat skills, some useful alchemic skills. But a witcher won't outmagic a mage, win a duel against some sword saint level fighter or brew better shit than some alchemist studying the craft for decades(granted, said alchemist wouldn't survive witcher brews).

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

I think that at this point its more like canon (the games) or fake (the books), or ultra-canon (the tv show).

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Games are more canon than books at this point. Sapkowski didn't wrote anything even remotely good in this setting since 1996 and is now just old vodka-marinated hateful fossl that should just shut up.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

If i understand the matter the games all take place after the books and build on the book's stories.

[–] gila@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Obvious arc for any character that's lost their mysterious powers: they get their powers back. Maybe cope but I doubt they'd just do geralt-like abilities for her progression, she'll have some sort of unique mechanic

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

"witcher" is the most boring thing they could've done.

maybe it's a bait and switch and this is just marketing for casuals

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Geralt's role as "the witcher" separates him from normal society and forces him to be a rootless outsider so he can wander around giving the audience an outsiders perspective on the violences and prejudices of the world around him.

Putting Ciri in a similar role is a literary conceit. If they want her to wander around meeting weird people, helping them with their problems, and sleeping with them she needs a reason why she's wandering the countryside instead of doing important elf princess of magical girl destiny stuff.

[–] Ambii@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Imo the decision to make her a witcher makes sense so long as the method used to give her mutations are justifiable. She wanted to be a sorceress like Yennefer and always looked up to Geralt as a witcher.

I do agree that they're fumbling a bit to not focus on her ability to world hop tho as I really wanted to see the Arthurian legend through Ciri's eyes.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

https://hexbear.net/comment/5747801

up-arrow by @BeamBrain@hexbear.net is an excellent quick breakdown how these hogs are all outrage tourists that never play the games they get mad about.

[–] Lurker123@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This meme is likely disingenuous. At the very least it is confused.

At the end of the Witcher 3, Ciri becomes a Witcher (the profession, a person who hunts monsters). The complaint is that she is a Witcher (a mutant, a person who has been mutated by monster dna), which doesn’t make much sense because she already has better-than-witcher magic powers, and is already able to drink Witcher potions (which she mentions at the end of Witcher 3, while not a mutant).

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

One of the possible endings is her doing that.

Another is her dying and Gerald seeking revenge for her death.

Another is her taking the mantle as Empress of Nilfgaard.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well given she's not dead or crowned but is the title character in W4 we can safely assume which ending of W3 is canon.

[–] Lurker123@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Indeed. Not sure what that has to do with this post though, which is clearly pointing to the witcheress ending (her profession) as evidence for her becoming a Witcher (a mutant).

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

TBH I got the platinum like a sweaty nerd and don't remember shit about the main story either. I think she started teleporting at some point so that was neat

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like I did a 120% run of it but never actually got to the final 2 missions after doing everything in all the DLCs burning out, redoing all of it again a couple years later, burning out again, and then just kinda accepting that I already kinda spoiled the endings for myself and then fully spoiled myself.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I burned out during that DLC everyone loves and wouldn't shut up about

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

same, i had just about enough of geraldino, mind you i still finished the story because im a freak, but i turned the difficulty down and just facerolled that shit catgirl-flop

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Call of Duty and its consequences have been a disaster for the gaming industry.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is the Witcher 3 any good? Is it too horny?

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

its kinda horny but I think you have to choose to do the horny things

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is it like:

  • Press F to horny
  • Continue storyline for horny

options?

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago

i think a volcel run is possible, although it might be hard. there is an official love partner, yen, which you can ruin the relation by being horny to other but i dont remember if you can ruin it just going volcel. I'll be safe and say that there is at least 1 "be horny to continue".

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I think you can romance people, but it is optional. Idk I never finished it

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

It's really good.

[–] IWantToMakeProgress@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ciri is already OP. Why go through the painful Trial_of_the_Grasses and be infertile. Geralt and Yen spent quite a lot just to have a child and it's hard to imagine Ciri chose the trial.

[–] Ambii@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Also Ciri undoubtedly has trauma surrounding fertility and pregnancy. In the books she was repeatedly captured by people who only wanted her in order to give birth to another child of the elder blood.

Thinking on it, they could further justify it by having ciri decide to become infertile to avoid others from trying to capture her and force her to conceive a child of the elder blood.

[–] Ambii@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To follow in Geralt's footsteps imo. She was always adventurous even without the threat of the wild hunt after her. She may also not want to use her elder blood powers to avoid the Wild Hunt/the Aen Elle discovering her again.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

maybe she just wanted those creepy eyes

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

I think Ciri as a witcher is such a good avenue for exploring how she deals with her existential angst and hatred for so many things in the world. She’s opinionated and she doesn’t care who knows it. Fuckin Doom slayer in Witcher’s clothes. Let’s see it

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

well im not a chud and i didnt like that, i would be ok if this was another gray haired woman that happens to look like ciri but not ciri. that story already had closure give us new characters!

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I mean, technically, she's not a witcher since she never went through with the mutations whixh are required.

However, considering shes basically a demi-god, she's probably fine lmao