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I don't have a driver's license, credit card, bank account or actual phone number so I can't use services like paypal or a bank account. So in turn I can't get donations from people. Someone donated me $50 which is now stuck in limbo because paypal won't work on door dash without a credit card or bank account. I tried asking my dad for his c.c. or bank account and that I would forward him the money but he blew up on me calling me a piece of shit and threatening to kick me out of the house, again.

So I'm back at square zero, again. Literally cannot do anything because of capitalism and it's fucking ponzi scheme of checks to kill the poor.

But god forbid Elon doesn't get his million dollars a day from the government and they sweat me over $50.

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[–] Rivalarrival 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My (adult) stepdaughter's (adult) boyfriend had no ID card, no social security card, could not remember his social security number, no birth certificate, no bank account, no debit card, no phone number.

These were seemingly insurmountable problems for him, but readily resolvable by anyone with experience dealing with these various agencies and entities. Three days after learning of his problems, we had obtained a copy of his high school transcripts, which can be used for identification in certain contexts. We had recovered his SSN and ordered a replacement card. We had opened a bank account. We had ordered his birth certificate. When we received his bank account documentation, and the rest of his documents in the mail the following week, we took it all to the DMV and got a state-issued ID card. Two weeks later, he was employed and receiving regular paychecks.

You need a local advocate. If you are over 18, that can be anyone you choose: a friend, neighbor, former teacher, etc. If you don't have someone currently willing to help, the community can guide you toward finding someone.

If you are under 18, it will need to be your parent, a government agency, or a lawyer. There are a lot of "official" options available, and the community can guide you toward them as well. If you are under 18 do not provide any specific details to anyone online. Nothing more personally identifiable than a zip code.

More general advice: don't use DoorDash. NEVER use DoorDash. They are a complete ripoff. $50 on DoorDash will get you about 2 meals.

  • A case of HDRs on Amazon is $40, and provides 10 days worth of food.
  • A case of A-Pack rations is $48, and provides 12 meals.
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for all the advice.

[–] Rivalarrival 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Do you want help getting out from between that rock and that hard place?

If you're of age, I'd suggest adding your city/state to your initial post, so the community can direct you to specific resources. If you're in my area, for example, I have a sister who works for a local credit union. She would be happy to help you open an account.

If you're underage, I'd suggest contacting the guidance counselors at your local public high school first, even if you're not a student. They can provide simple advocacy, and direct and assist you in finding the proper support. At the highest end, a "guardian ad litem" could be appointed. This is a lawyer, appointed by the state and free to you, who is charged with supporting your best interests, ahead of the interests of your parent(s). There is a wide range of support available between those two.

~~If you want help, the community needs to know your general age and your city/state.~~

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We do not recommend or allow users to self-dox. Do not post or request personally identifiable information like your name, age, or where you live on Hexbear.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And I can't even refund the comrade back the money because I don't have a bank account, credit card, or phone number cursed-woog

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The banal evil of the capitalist social contract constructs

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

They really do just expect poor people to quietly die in a hole, don't they?

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sorry your dad sucks so much.

Not trying to pry because it seems like this is more of a rant than asking advice but is the reason for not having a bank account a lack of transportation?

If you're able, look into local credit unions, they will usually let you open a checking account and have a debit card with no minimum balance requirements or monthly fees

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you're able, look into local credit unions, they will usually let you open a checking account and have a debit card with no minimum balance requirements or monthly fees

My dad won't drive me to open up a bank account, get my driver's license renewed, or get minutes on my phone to renew my actual phone number so I'm literally stuck.

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Welcome to amerikkka, where you have to proletariat

It must suck, had you been born in a more "civilized" country where there is public transport, things might be different

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

America literally is barbarian land minus the good stuff like mead halls and monsters to slay.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh there’s plenty of monsters to slay, you just shouldn’t do it alone and in a haphazard way

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Luigi slayed a monster alone

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but the spawn point's still up. That's where workers organizing comes in

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If I lived in the US would have offered to drive to you and give you a lift around to get things done, but alas.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Idk, some of my friends own the closest equivalent of a mead hall, and other friends operate another. They have bands and drag shows and trivia, and I brew stuff.

It seems like transportation is a real barrier to you. Once I get employed again, wanna talk more about long-term solutions? Because being a hermit under a hostile/controlling parent's domain is no way to live, especially for more than a year, especially without your two biggest sources of on-hand moral support.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Okay that sounds good, thank you comrade.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Maybe you can try hitchhiking or some shit? or are you in log cabin 50 km from civilization?

[–] NotThatKindOfFedPosting@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you use an Uber gift card to get ID?

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

I'll look into it, thanks for the suggestion

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

If you have access to a free virtual phone service like Google Voice, some but not all of these systems will allow you to use that number in registration. At the very least, it would allow you to call 211 and the United Way can help connect you with local resources.

You can probably get by fine with a one of these virtual phone numbers for a bit, as long as you're usually in a place with WiFi, so the first priority should be on getting a valid ID. Many states will now allow you to renew or replace an expired or lost ID card online or by mail, you should double-check if either option could be viable for you.

[–] large_goblin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Death to PayPal. They’ve stolen my money before because I logged in from a new location and refused to unlock my account. I have a complicated financial situation legally so I’m aware they can and will close my new account without warning but sometimes it’s the only way to get money to people who need it (no cashapp or venmo etc here).

I hope the suggestions other people have given you work and you can have control over your own identity soon. Best of luck.

[–] SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't it possible to use PayPal as a bank? I think you can order a debit card from them.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Can't not without id

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

I think you can also use Visa gift cards as accounts, so long as there's money on the card and it isn't expired. The downside is the initial price of the card, plus any activation fees. You have to get ones that can be reloaded.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

straight up abuse on so many levels. Anyone in the same state with a car could probably help you get a lot of that shit sorted out. Or as another user suggested, hitchhiking

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

You sound young, likely under 18.

This sounds like an abusive situation, not allowing you to get the ability to gain independence. Can you get to a local library? A librarian could probably help get you in contact with local services.

Is there anything within a reasonable distance that you can go to and talk to someone with authority? Even a school that you don’t currently attend, or better yet one that you do. Are you in school? Schools usually have resources for kids in tough situations and can get you going in the right direction.

If not that, maybe the fire department? They’re likely to have contacts with social services also, and aren’t threatening like going to the cops would potentially be.

It sounds like you need to get away from your father. That level of control is abusive.