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The erasure of Luigi Mangione (substack.evancarroll.com)
submitted 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) by dexa_scantron@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
 

Right now, on Stack Overflow, Luigi Magione’s account has been renamed. Despite having fruitfully contributed to the network he is stripped of his name and his account is now known as “user4616250”.

This appears to violate the creative commons license under which Stack Overflow content is posted.

When the author asked about this:

As of yet, Stack Exchange has not replied to the above post, but they did promptly and within hours gave me a year-long ban for merely raising the question. Of course, they did draft a letter which credited the action to other events that occurred weeks before where I merely upvoted contributions from Luigi and bountied a few of his questions.

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[–] FolknForage@lemm.ee 20 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

“No wars but class wars” as true today as when Trotsky said it many decades ago. Not sure how anyone cannot see this very, very clear fact, made self evident by the treatment of Luigi and the composition of the upcoming administration and its supporters.

But every other commoner that sees it needs to take according measures.

Culture is not our friend.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 minutes ago

As of yet, Stack Exchange has not replied to the above post, but they did promptly and within hours gave me a year-long ban for merely raising the question.

Laws mean nothing anymore. Therefore licenses mean nothing. Therefore ownership means nothing, and "theft" no longer exists.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 79 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Apropos of nothing, this was an article about substance from a year ago:

Substack faces user revolt over anti-censorship stance on neo-Nazis

Fuck substack.

Shit, this article is about stack overflow, not substack. Too early, but still fuck substack.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

"Censorship forced me to flee a pro-nazi site to another pro-nazi site," is a contradiction worth noting. It highlights the general pro-nazi vibe going around big tech.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

The internet just isn’t fun anymore. Right wing bigots are stomping around and the best communities are all either crumbling or raising their bridges and filling their motes so AI can’t scrape them and these asshats can’t get in, killing the ability for new people to find them. And who can blame them? They want to protect their communities from very real threats.

The internet is Balkanizing and it’s to our collective detriment.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 12 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There’s plenty of leftists, too. But the leftists threaten capital, and fascists don’t, so only one is being targeted/censored.

[–] FolknForage@lemm.ee 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago) (2 children)

Corporate fascists need the muscle that the stormtroopers can provide in exchange for the loot they pillage.

That’s what we are seeing with the last 10-15 years resurgence of the alt-rights grift.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago) (1 children)

It’s less a resurgence and more that they’ve transitioned from AM talk radio/cable news to youtube, podcast platforms, and social media.

[–] FolknForage@lemm.ee 1 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 minutes ago

Not to be too “WELL AKSHOOOALEEE” I just think people - myself included - got used to how relatively quiet things felt in the mid 2010’s and didn’t realize this shift was happening.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 47 minutes ago

Capitalists were always going to embrace fascism in the face of rising leftist movements and increasing inequality. Communist theorists predicted over a hundred years ago, and it’s been playing out exactly as they said it would.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 13 points 3 hours ago

It's about SO but on SS so you were still right!

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 38 points 3 hours ago (7 children)

Stopped using stack overflow ages ago because of how many assholes there are there.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I also stopped posting there years ago for much the same reason. You could feel the strangulation of the community as duplicate questions started getting shouted down, posts got turned into "community wikis" against your will and your own questions started getting edited to better fit someone else's plans and ideologies. The company was sold shortly after, so maybe animals can sense their pending extinction (some of them anyway)?

I miss those days when writing an answer genuinely felt like helping to grow the global community of friend developers. It's a shame no technology has been discovered that will let the small amount of collective good in us all work together against the assholes, but alas it seems the opposite is always true.

[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 15 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

What's even more annoying is when their refinements end up putting an objectively wrong answer as the authoritative record.

I found a question where someone new to electronics was how to get more current from a USB power supply.

The "correct" answer that was posted before the question was closed was that a source can't limit current and the questioner should learn more about electricity.

The actual correct answer - and probably what the questioner was looking for - is to short the data lines together because a compliant USB charger will only supply 500mA by default, not it's stated max current.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 51 minutes ago

Increasingly, I find the answer is in the comments, or not at all

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 hour ago

What drives me mad is when a question is closed as a duplicate, and when you look at the duplicate it's either for a different version of the product and thus the answer isn't relevant, or the question straight up wasn't answered there either.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

The company was sold shortly after, so maybe animals can sense their pending extinction (some of them anyway)?

More likely the changes were made to improve the "saleability" of the website.

I miss those days when writing an answer genuinely felt like helping to grow the global community of friend developers.

One of the promises of the internet was, supposedly, that it couldn't really be monopolized because the barriers to entry were so low. But what we've seen is the influence of the Networking Effect as a means of consolidating user bases, combined with a cartel-style censorship that limits the degree to which word-of-mouth can influence a nascent community's growth.

And now the AI comes to fully alienate us from each other, leaving even the more token communities with a "am I talking to a real person or a computer facsimile" lingering dread with each passing year.

your own questions started getting edited to better fit someone else's plans and ideologies

That hits hard for me. Not that someone changed the spirit of my answer but that someone completely reworded it without my permission. It was almost like they were trying to steal my idea without running afoul of copyright or something.

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[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 89 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

By this logic, everyone charged (not convicted, just charged) should have their accounts and submissions changed in the same manner as Luigi's.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 38 points 3 hours ago

Man I sure wish this'd mean all Trump-generated content and speeches got deleted. That'd be genuinely helpful to the world at least...

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

Didn't he confess though? That's quite a bit different than a pending trial.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 3 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

Pled not guilty. No he did not.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

Pretty much everyone pleads not guilty, especially in a politically motivated murder charge (there's always a chance of a hung jury or jury nullification). That said, his manifesto could be considered a form of confession and will certainly be used as evidence to that effect.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

He pled not guilty, it really is that simple.

Innocent until proven guilty.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Jean Valjean was labelled prisoner number 24601, apropos of nothing

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