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By Henri Astier BBC News


Israel has suggested that the long-term aim of its military campaign in Gaza is to sever all links with the territory.

Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant said that once Hamas had been defeated, Israel would end its "responsibility for life in the Gaza Strip".

Before the conflict, Israel supplied Gaza with most of its energy needs and monitored imports into the territory.

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[-] wjrii@kbin.social 84 points 8 months ago

Okay, so surely that will also involve removing the maritime blockade and giving Gazans responsibility for the land border with Egypt, RIGHT?

Though even if it did, I would tend to think that the flip side would be increased settlement and repression in the West Bank.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

If there is no Hamas in power, why would they have continued blockade?

[-] NewDark@lemmings.world 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Tell me this, place yourself in the shoes of an average Gazan at the age of 18. With all the destruction, violence, and oppression you've witnessed, would you not become a "terrorist" against your oppressor? There won't be an end to Hamas without an end of the abysmal material conditions and violence. Hamas was literally funded and legitimized by Israel to manufacture consent for their ethnic clensing campaign.

They will continue to blockade as long as Palestinians exist, I gaurentee it.

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[-] Seudo@lemmy.world 76 points 8 months ago

Half the population are children, most of whom will dedicate their life to a blood feud.

[-] White_Flight@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

lol the kids in Palestine already dedicate their life to blood feud.

this whole situation is sad, and cannot be summed up on an internet post.

this ancient blood feud will continue long after you and I are converted to fossil fuels

[-] BoostWillis@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Ethnic cleansing is bad and a nation descended from Holocaust survivors should know better. Unfortunately that nation is ruled by a far right government intent on finishing the job their grandparents started in 1948.

Here in the US, our ancestors shot their foreign occupying soldiers over a lot less, and rightfully so.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 15 points 8 months ago

Let's not forget the native Americans who resisted their oppressors, and were ethnically cleansed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

Trump: "If I lose, you'll never see me again."

Israel: "If we get rid of Hamas, we won't have to blockade Gaza anymore."

[x] Doubt

[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Read the article. It sounds like they want to be off the hook for providing necessary infrastructure and services to Gaza and other occupied territories.

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[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

They stole all the resources and then they make it look like they're doing a favor to give something back. Shameful.

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 14 points 8 months ago
[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 7 points 8 months ago

I'm British and this made me sadlaugh

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 5 points 8 months ago
[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago
[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 83 points 8 months ago

It's disengenuous. People complain about Gaza not having enough of its own water or electricity infrastructure and relying on Israel, but up until now Israel has required Gaza to get their permission on any new construction. So Israel have been holding Gaza hostage via water and now they're cutting them off and making excuses for it.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 27 points 8 months ago

It doesn't help when the government in the region digs up infrastructure to construct weapons with and makes hype videos about it.

[-] NewDark@lemmings.world 17 points 8 months ago

Man good point. Glad the Israelis aren't using any weapons that are disproportionately more effective on a captive populace. The prisoners shouldn't fight back against their oppressor through whatever desperate means they have available. Please die and suffer in silence, Palestinians.

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[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

That's very true, however I don't believe Gaza had sufficient water supplies even before then.

The whole issue is a mess, with so many bad actors on both sides.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 7 points 8 months ago

Gaza has a sizeable aquifer and it's received enough aid where it could have and should have built desalination plants to augment it's water supply (but instead spent that money on Condos in Qatar).

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

*Have been routinely denied permit, it's been a thing for awhile.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/11/the-occupation-of-water/

You can blame Hamas for being shitty but they wouldn't have support without Israel being shitty. Stop trying to point fingers, everyone is to blame and no one here has the moral high ground.

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[-] MxM111@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago

When the ruling party have publicly stated and action supported main goal in destruction of Jewish state, it is called security measure.

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[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 27 points 8 months ago

Destroy people's homes, utilities, food, etc, then pulling out and saying "not my problem" while people die from lack of basic necessities and medical care as a result of Israel's destruction and Israel does a pikashocked face while continuing to do whatever they can to limit aid getting in still seems pretty bad. Like, better than stealing the Territory...

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

It is a long term goal, not immediate goal. Having Palestine state (without Hamas) responsible for itself is a good thing.

[-] buzziebee@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Seeing promising things about a 2 state solution being discussed at the Cairo peace summit. Let's hope after the violence cooler heads prevail and we can see a lasting peace in the region.

[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I would just expect another militant group to take their place. Every bombing essentially creates a new radicals. Would you really expect Palestinians to just forget about all their dead realitives?

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[-] anteaters@feddit.de 14 points 8 months ago

Well it'll be a DMZ inside Gaza with a very hard border that nothing may cross so it will all be Egypt's problem.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago
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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant said that once Hamas had been defeated, Israel would end its "responsibility for life in the Gaza Strip".

On Friday, Mr Gallant told a parliamentary committee that the first stage of the campaign was meant to destroy Hamas's infrastructure, according to a statement from his office.

The US and Egypt have reached a deal allowing some supplies to start bringing relief Gaza's 2.2 million residents.

An initial convoy of 20 trucks had been expected to enter southern Gaza through the Rafah border crossing on Friday, but they are still stuck on the Egyptian side.

Meanwhile Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has confirmed that he will join several world leaders at a summit in Cairo on Saturday aimed at achieving a ceasefire.

The event, hosted by Egyptian President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi, will involve talks on trying to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict based on a two-state solution.


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