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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 147 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For real, the “if” in that sentence could reasonably win an Olympic powerlifting competition

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

its honest a boon for gamers as microsoft now actually has to spend more effort making windows betters for gamers then spending all of its effort on windows for arm and AI. one of the things windows as an OS lacks is that the handheld experience is actually trash, and the OS is a resource hog for a handheld device

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They tried to make the handheld experience better in windows 8... 🤣

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

imo the metro take of windows 8 wasn't the wrong approach for its intended market(tablets) it's just forcing it on desktop/laptop users as well as a boneheaded decision.

They need to stop forcing windows changes for ALL users, including to the users that can't use said features properly (as it was designed with touch screens in mind, and not everyone had touchscreens). Same idea with the more recent stuff involving Recall. not everyone has AI capable pcs, so its dumb to include the change to all users that will exist on the main branch of the OS, and would apply down the line to windows handhelds as well, who will likely not need recall as a feature as its using up resources. And im not like a person whose like fully Anti AI either, it just has its specific userbase that may need it, and there are others (like with a windows handheld case) that should not have it at all, as it is likely a detriment to battery if enabled by default.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 week ago

That's what I was implying with the elipses, I just couldn't be bothered writing all that 😅

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Competition is always great. To be fair, Windows wasn't really designed with a handheld game console in mind as its target distribution platform. SteamOS, at least its current version, was designed for that exact purpose. Would definitely welcome a more lightweight Windows to come from this though, not just for handhelds but just regular desktops too.

[–] Computerchairgeneral@fedia.io 49 points 1 week ago

That "If" is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence. Really interested to see where SteamOS goes in the future.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago

It's easy to understate what an unusual project SteamOS is. It represents over a dozen years of work from some of the industry's finest, is funded by a private company, yet is open source and free for everyone to use. "I'm pretty happy that we've managed to find a balance that's beneficial to everyone, while still being able to help this PC ecosystem in this way," says Griffais. "I'm really happy about that."

I can't wait to try it

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

See that's how you get people to like you more. Not whatever the hell social media CEOs keep doing.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

They don't care about being liked, they just want to prop up the oligarchy by controlling access to information.

[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago

The way that's worded implies that the only way it can hurt Windows is if Windows sucks. Subtle and true. Do better Microsoft. Or don't. We don't care, we're just doing our own thing.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Killing windows would just be a little happy accident

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

good experience on Windows

Windows 7 was the last time I had that experience lol

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 18 points 1 week ago (10 children)

98 Good

ME Bad

XP Good

Vista Bad

7 Good

8 Bad

10 Good

11 Bad

Let me know when 12 is out I guess...

[–] Iunnrais@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Remember when windows said 10 would be the last version of windows, and they’d just keep sending updates from then on? That lie didn’t last long…

And they’re EoLing it this coming October! Can’t they wait until 12 at least to do that? I can’t remember the last time the end of life came before two versions had gone by. Wtf!

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[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well yeah... Windows users can still use Steam. They sell games. They don't want people to switch anything; they wanna sell more games.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And they want to hedge against Windows trying to monopolise the gaming market. You know, the kind of thing government oversight used to prevent in days gone by.

[–] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

tbh i have more faith in Gabe and val e than the DoJ

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago

Windows feels like a bit of a sinking ship. Not entirely, and it's slow, but the feeling is present and consistent. I don't want to keep having to rip apart the OS to remove shit they shoved onto my hardware without my consent. I just want an easyish experience that I can do my shit on, and they aren't really interested in that it feels.

In comparison to that, alternatives like steam os sounds great to your average user.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Microsoft wants all future apps to go through their store. Basically like Apple does in Mac [ appears you can ]. I do believe this is the future for Windows apps. Once that happens, Valve running on Windows will be second fiddle. Valve's only choice is to migrate to another OS or end up like Mozilla.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mac user here. I never use the App Store.

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[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They'll never be able to force that.

[–] Kelly@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It would instantly break compatibility with >99% of windows software.

They are trying with Windows S but i don't think it has much of a market.

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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

That's cheeky.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

Windows: So you're saying there's a chance

[–] koncertejo@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago


I was saying death to Windows.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

The killing is more a side effect than the actual goal. Got it.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's about making more steam users. Windows is great, they can use steam. They're going after people who can't afford a pc. If people get a deck or steamos who already do own one, that's just gravy

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The weird thing with this is i became a pc gamer precisely because it was the cheapest platform.

Most homes had/have a desktop pc. The hardware was mostly irrelevant because Low graphics settings where default and actually looked more readable then the dlss blurs of today.

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[–] ThermonuclearCactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I've finally banished Windows to a virtual machine, and am gearing up to fistfight Easy: ~~Anti-cheat~~ Rootkit AKA Fucking piece of shit that does precisely fuck-all to stop cheating despite having access to kernel space in order to get Sea of Thieves working on my virtual machine.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I need Windows to die because I'm tired of having to use it just to get proper HDR and Nvidia support. Or at the very least, AMD GPUs need to get better.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

It's not about killing windows… but if it were to have an accident, y'know… I'm just sayin'…

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly almost everything works on my steam deck. The only things that don't work are online only games with anti-cheat, and I barely ever touch those. I could possibly make the leap on my main pc to be fully steamos

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Make the switch to Linux, by all means but I don't think you should use SteamOS as a desktop OS.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

SteamOS is about Valve not paying Microsoft a license fee. It's not some egalitarian move by them but a cost saving. From a game dev's perspective it's additional cost and effort to port a game, or hope it runs under emulation with Proton.

I am surprised they haven't used it for cloud gaming yet since that's where the real cost savings kick in but I bet they're still saving on each Steam Deck they sell without Windows on it.

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