libreoffice, however, will continue to support windows 10
this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2025
393 points (99.2% liked)
Technology
60474 readers
4113 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
LibreOffice and OnlyOffice are decent replacements. I haven't paid for Microsoft Office in decades.
So, an abundance of software companies come and go while they stand tallest for decades. Then, now, at this moment just when shit is going down, they decide to try the business model all other failing companies used. God it must be such a different world for these decision makers that can't see how actual people think and act. It's a baffling phenomenon to me.
It's time to use LibreOffice
Long since been.
Me, still using a site licensed copy of Office 2007 from a job I had over a decade ago.
I'm still using office 2003
i miss 3.x
I'll use Windows 10 and pay for the updates for years while using old versions of office. Fuck Windows 11.
Are you sure about that?
While businesses will be charged $61 for a single year of ESU, they also have the option to pay $122 for a second year and then $244 for a third year of updates. Microsoft will only offer consumers a single year if they’re willing to pay the $30 fee.
If shocked was a shade it would be whatever shade the inside of my asshole is.
Switch to Linux Mint and Libreoffice. You will thank me later!
Former burned out core LM developer here, the grass is not always greener (but maybe is if you don't know how the sausage is cooked).
I, in fact, do not know how the sausage is cooked. It's great!
I've been using LibreOffice and before that OpenOffice for as long as I've known about them being options. It's honestly baffling to me that any home user would ever pay for MS Office. What on Earth does it offer that any home user could conceivably need?
One doesn't need to pay for MS Office. Not home users, anyway.
Familiarity, I suppose.
Manjaro and SoftMaker Office works just as well
And then, you need a SW only available via AUR on arch based distro, see the toggle to enable AUR, do it, successfully install the app, make manjaro sw update and welcome in dependency hell ❤️
This is the way. Any Linux and FOSS alternatives really.
That's when Windows 10 stops getting security updates. Expect most software vendors to drop support for Windows 10 this year if they haven't already. That doesn't necessarily mean things will stop working, but it will not be tested and they won't spend time fixing Win10-specific problems.
In enterprise, you can get an additional three years of "extended security updates". That's your grace period to get everyone in your org upgraded.
While I strongly relate to anyone who hates Windows 11, "continue using Windows 10 forever" was never a viable long-term strategy.
Windows 10 was released in 2015. Ten years of support for an OS is industry-leading, on par with Red Hat or Ubuntu's enterprise offerings and far ahead of any competing consumer OS. Apple generally only offers three years of security updates. Google provides 3-4 years of security updates. Debian gets 5 years.
There has never been a time in the history of personal computing when using an OS for over 10 years without a major upgrade was realistic. That would be like using Windows 3.1 after XP was released. Windows 10 is dead, and it's been a long time coming.
Now go download Fedora.
But not Professional? Just Enterprise?
Also this is very much not the same world as when XP came out, considering you can accidentally upgrade your os instead of having to watch your father angrily fail to install service pack 3 for four hours.
And why Fedora?
How are they going to drop updates for something they have to spend zero energy on to stay compatible? Windows 11 is a low effort UI re-hash with some minor kernel iterations. I love and miss the Linux desktop and want it to succeed, but it's clear there's a bias here meant to push a narrative.
I'm expecting pretty decent software support for Windows 10 for another three years or so. Sure, there will be things here and there that won't work, but most things will continue to work and many people who are on Windows 10 can just keep on using it for the next few years should they chose to do that. That'll more or less match what happened with Windows 7, where it wasn't until 2023 that I started to see support start to massively drop off. With that said, if Microsoft actually breaks Office on Windows 10 that'll really change things.
Also, I'd offer up 2001-2014 as a period of time where it was entirely possible to stick with one OS (Windows XP) the entire time.
Windows was doing an Ubuntu-like release cycle on 10 with standard releases every 6 months and LTS releases every 2 years. There was no need for them to release Windows 11 other than branding. They could have simply kept up their scheduled release cadence like every linux distro does.
"continue using Windows 10 forever" was never a viable long-term strategy.
https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows
LOL, I forgot about that. Fair point.
So sad for Microsoft that as soon as they decided to copy another one of Apple's worst ideas, Apple moved up to 11 instead of 10.16.
See, there is absolutely no reason for this. It's simply out of spite for their users.
No, it isn't. They don't disable Office on Windows 10 on that date.
They just don't take Windows 10 into account anymore in developing updates to the office apps.
Which means those apps might stop working at some point if an update to them happens to break Windows 10 compatibility.
Sorry, nuance is not allowed on Lemmy.
Discontinuing Windows 10 when Windows 11 is such a terrible OS is the real issue, continuing to support EOL Windows version in their Office suite would simply make no sense.
When Win 11 is such a hostile experience for privacy, yeah it still is out of spite, just for different reasons. I'm so glad to be rid of Windows in my home.
LibreOffice, rise!
Seriously, why people feel attached to office in 2025.
The last time I used LibreOffice was admittedly a couple years ago but it was just plain clunky in comparison to MS Office. Word feels nicer to use than Writer, and Excel is more intuitive than Calc.
I'm glad that FOSS alternatives exist, but the older I get the more I turn into a boring normie. Office just works. I can collaborate on our budget with my girlfriend, I can pull up my resume and edit it on my phone, I can share files with my friends or with my boss or with my prof. And I don't have to maintain any infrastructure to do that. I don't have to set up a domain or any kind of server, it's a couple hours' pay. For a year of relatively seamless support.
Unfortunately, it's the corporate standard. With that said, it's actually kind of surprising how little I use the Office suite on my work computer (other than Outlook I guess). More and more things are becoming web based.
It's vendor lockin. Office file formats are not properly open. There is a "temporary" closed bit that they promised to open to get through ISO, but then never did. The whole ISO thing was a massive exercise in corruption. Let alone the fact the reference implementation is closed. Shame Groklaw isn't as easy to search and link now.
For those about to switch, welcome to Linux! If you have AMD hardware give Linux Mint a shot. If you have NVIDIA, Pop!_OS is worth your first install.
Mint is better with AMD? Good to know. I was already planning to try Mint first because I heard it was easier on cavemen like me that don't speak no computer.
load more comments
(21 replies)
The harder MS tries to force Win11 on me the clearer it becomes how bad it is.
I will move to another office suit,install, and learn a completely new OS like Linux after 40 years of Windows before I ever install their unnecessary and untrustworthy data-miner.
Win10 was bad but most of it could be removed/worked around. This time it's clearly war against typical users so F it I'm out.
It's not difficult to block the mining and telemetry. Pihole, a few registry tweaks, a few scheduled tasks disabled and life goes on.
Folk see nothing wrong with spending hours tuning a Linux distro, but they object to doing the same with Windows?
FWIW I use vanilla Debian for everything other than what I'm required to use Windows for.
before I ever install their unnecessary and untrustworthy data-miner
You're about [current year minus year you installed Win10] years too late for that. That said, if you intend to come over to Linux, it's probably best to set time-bounded goals for yourself instead of vaguely putting it off until MS does something that crosses some poorly defined line, else you risk having to chaotically abandon ship at the last minute and making the transition much harder.
load more comments
(1 replies)
view more: next ›