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Just randomly sharing my experience here. My sister told me a few weeks ago she was going to change for a new phone (a Motorola, she likes AOSP-like experience). I noticed that her new phone wouldn't get a jack.

"Yeah, I know, I hope I can make it work with a USB-adapter". She has nice headphones that she likes to use, so USB-C earplugs were not an option.

Fast forward to today, she told me the adapter she got starts to malfunction:

  • she has to twitch the jack in the adapter for the thing to work
  • when she plugs the adapter in, Google Assistant takes over and randomly starts skipping songs.

She's now considering getting wireless earbuds, but she's not a fan of having to recharge them to be able to use them, and is also cautious about the e-waste potential.

I have a Moto G84 which does the job. It's not the best phone in the world, I'm eyeing a flagship from time to time and keep the G84 as a "connected walkman", but would it break today, I would probably get a G55 (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Motorola-Moto-G55-smartphone-review-Inexpensive-doesn-t-have-to-be-boring.932900.0.html)

That's it for me, do you have similar experiences to share?

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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

she has to twitch the jack in the adapter for the thing to work

This is the downfall of all headphone jacks tbh

[–] Tabooki@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

A good quality DAC connected to your USB port will give you far better sound than having a headphone jack.

[–] numanair@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Good thing that type-c port is still there either way then.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 13 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

Headphone jack and removable battery are the two features I will not compromise on. Makes selecting a new phone pretty damn easy. I would have loved a fairphone but sorry, no exceptions.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 hours ago

At some point, you're just not going to have a phone at all then, the way things are going.

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[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

A "must", only for a subset of users.

If it were truly a "must", more people would be complaining.

I get it, you find Bluetooth unappealing for reasons, just like I find larger phones unappealing. Unfortunately, we're a minority, neither of these are a "must" for most people.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 28 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

My friend group used to be very big on "pass the aux cord" when we're hanging out. It was incredibly easy to switch out our phones (or iPods and portable CD players before that) to let all of us contribute music for the gathering.

Now? Ok, I disconnected from the BT speaker. Do you see it yet? Lemme try turning the BT speaker off and on again. [BING BONG!; "Connected"] Ugh, it reconnected to my phone. Let me just turn BT off on my phone and you try again.

It's just such a PITA with BT, and having to keep USB-C and Lightning adapters on hand is even more annoying than that. If only there were a reliable and dedicated connection for audio devices....oh well.

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[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I actually quite like the Bluetooth DAC I got because of the disappearance of my headphone jack. It breaks that physical attachment of my headphones to my phone while giving very good quality audio.

I'd recommend checking out the Fiio BTR line if interested.

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[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 6 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Regarding your sister's issue: that happened to me less when I paid a little more for a quality adapter. I think I got a two pack for $15 and the cord has some rubber protection where the wire turns into USB C and where it turns into a headphone jack. Haven't had the same issue your sister is having ever since.

Also cheap phones have really bad USB C ports that are super loose. With my pixel or iPhone? Almost no issues with connections. But my moto phones? Well there’s a reason why they’re so cheap.

[–] Tabooki@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

You can't get a good quality DAC for $15. Lol

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[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 8 points 10 hours ago (12 children)

For me I'm really split on wired vs wireless headphones as well. I do love how being wireless makes moving around easier. I'm sure we've all felt the rage when the wire gets caught and gets unplugged. But the amount of times I have to charge it while I want to use it is pretty annoying too.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 5 hours ago

You shouldn't have to choose

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I haven't had a charging concern for Bluetooth for probably 10 years.

Today, my ear buds have a case. If I use them for music for 8 hours, they tell me they need charging. That's how much they've improved.

The charging case rarely needs charging, and it supports wireless, so I just set it on the charging base.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah once I had 8h multi connect headphones I was sold. Being able to take work calls at my computer, end the call, play my phone audio book or music while I do chores, get call notifications from my PC while I'm doing chores... All seamlessly, I was completely in.

Edit I'd be curious what the downvote is for here, just sharing an opinion.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

No not it is not a must. And the vast majority of pwope don't care.

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[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (4 children)

About 4years ago, I decided to get a phone that I could modify (custom rom, root and such) and that had a proper camera. So I got a xiaomi mi 10, which has no audio jack (or even sd card reader..)

The default adapter lasted about 3years (I dont use wired earphones that often) and I decided to get a "proper" one from a ugreen brand (I found reviews that their previous model was bad and they had released a new better one) (it's this one UGreen AV161). It seems sturdy (it has that fiberglass sleeve too), hoping it will last.

It's indeed bad that they dont put a headphone jack and I find it sad that fairphone dropped it too, cuz I'm thinking of buying a phone from them in the future. Not only it reduces the phone's usability, but also indirectly forces you to buy wireless earphones. On top of that, using wired earphones puts extra wear on the single usb port (which I dont know how easy it is to replace it, I've only replaced a micro-usb port).

I dont exactly know where I'm going with this comment, but okπŸ˜…

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The extra wear on usb-c port is definitely still an issue as I have had that be the reason for needing to replace my wife's phone twice now. It was worse with micro-usb in my experience, but it stopped me from making use of my usb-c dongles. BTW, if you're using usb-c DACs, most kinda suck. Weirdly, I found the one from Google actually had the best sound, but if you haven't had an issue thus far then don't sweat it.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It was worse with micro-usb in my experience

Indeed, I had to replace the micro usb port in about 4 years (and it was already mulfunctioning probably for years), while the type c port still works almost flawlessly.

About the dac, even though I dont think I can detect the difference, I remember seeing comments that the previous model of my adaptor had a bad dac (or it didnt even have one??), but they seemingly fixed it ij the new model.

(PS. I download flac songs, but I dont think I can tell the difference between a proper lossless flac and a 64kbps opus, lol. It might be bad equipment, it might be my hearing, it might be that I tend to listen at low volumes, a combo of all the above or something.)

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It had to have a DAC if it was converting the bluetooth digital signal, but it could have been either a bad DAC or just poorly implemented DAC chip. I've seen it in a lot of these types of devices (Fiio, I am looking at you). It's not like the chips are that expensive in comparison to the final price of the device.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

Oh oops, I was talking about a type c to audio jack adaptor

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