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The avocado, alligator pear or avocado pear (Persea americana) is an evergreen tree in the laurel family (Lauraceae). It is native to the Americas and was first domesticated in Mesoamerica more than 5,000 years ago. It was prized for its large and unusually oily fruit. The tree likely originated in the highlands bridging south-central Mexico and Guatemala. Avocado trees have a native growth range from Mexico to Costa Rica. Its fruit, sometimes also referred to as an alligator pear or avocado pear, is botanically a large berry containing a single large seed. Sequencing of its genome showed that the evolution of avocados was shaped by polyploidy events and that commercial varieties have a hybrid origin. Avocado trees are partly self-pollinating, and are often propagated through grafting to maintain consistent fruit output. Avocados are presently cultivated in the tropical and Mediterranean climates of many countries. Mexico is the world's leading producer of avocados as of 2020, supplying nearly 30% of the global harvest in that year.

The fruit of domestic varieties have smooth, buttery, golden-green flesh when ripe. Depending on the cultivar, avocados have green, brown, purplish, or black skin, and may be pear-shaped, egg-shaped, or spherical. For commercial purposes the fruits are picked while unripe and ripened after harvesting. The nutrient density and extremely high fat content of avocado flesh are useful to a variety of cuisines and are often eaten to enrich vegetarian diets.

In major production regions like Chile, Mexico and California the water demands of avocado farms place strain on local resources. Avocado production is also implicated in other externalities, including deforestation and human rights concerns associated with the partial control of their production in Mexico by organized crime. Global warming is expected to result in significant changes to the suitable growing zones for avocados, and place additional pressures on the locales in which they are produced due to heat waves and drought.

Taxonomy and evolution

The genus Persea to which the avocado belongs is considered to have a North American origin, with Persea suggested to have diversified in Central America during the Pleistocene epoch. The modern avocado is thought to have speciated from other Persea during the Pleistocene, estimated at around either 1.3 million or 430,000 years ago. A number of authors, including Connie Barlow in her 2001 book The Ghosts of Evolution, have speculated that the avocado is an "evolutionary anachronism" with megafaunal dispersal syndrome (a concept originally proposed in the 1980s by Paul S. Martin and Daniel H. Janzen[30]), arguing that the avocado likely coevolved dispersal of its large seed by now-extinct megafauna. Barlow proposed that the dispersers included the gomphothere (elephant relative) Cuvieronius, as well as ground sloths, toxodontids, and glyptodonts.

Etymology

The word avocado comes from the Spanish aguacate, which derives from the Nahuatl (Mexican) word āhuacatl [aːˈwakat͡ɬ], which goes back to the proto-Aztecan *pa:wa. In Molina's Nahuatl dictionary "auacatl" is given also as the translation for compañón "testicle", and this has been taken up in popular culture where a frequent claim is that testicle was the word's original meaning. This is not the case, as the original meaning can be reconstructed as "avocado" – rather the word seems to have been used in Nahuatl as a euphemism for "testicle".

In Central American, Caribbean Spanish-speaking countries, and Spain it is known by the Mexican Spanish name aguacate, while South American Spanish-speaking countries Argentina, Chile, Perú and Uruguay use a Quechua-derived word, palta. The Nahuatl āhuacatl can be compounded with other words, as in ahuacamolli, meaning avocado soup or sauce, from which the Spanish word guacamole derives.

Cultivation

Domestication, leading to genetically distinct cultivars, possibly originated in the Tehuacan Valley in the state of Puebla, Mexico. There is evidence for three possible separate domestications of the avocado, resulting in the currently recognized Guatemalan (quilaoacatl), Mexican (aoacatl) and West Indian (tlacacolaocatl) landraces. The Guatemalan and Mexican and landraces originated in the highlands of those countries, while the West Indian landrace is a lowland variety that ranges from Guatemala, Costa Rica, Colombia, Ecuador to Peru, achieving a wide range through human agency before the arrival of the Europeans. The three separate landraces were most likely to have already intermingled[a] in pre-Columbian America and were described in the Florentine Codex. As a result of artificial selection, the fruit and correspondingly the seeds of cultivated avocados became considerably larger relative to their earlier wild forebears millennia before the Columbian exchange.

The earliest residents of northern coastal Peru were living in temporary camps in an ancient wetland and eating avocados, along with chilies, mollusks, sharks, birds, and sea lions. The oldest discovery of an avocado pit comes from Coxcatlan Cave, dating from around 9,000 to 10,000 years ago. The avocado tree also has a long history of cultivation in Central and South America, likely beginning as early as 5,000 BC. A water jar shaped like an avocado, dating to AD 900, was discovered in the pre-Inca city of Chan Chan.

Production

In 2020, world production of avocados was 8.1 million tonnes, led by Mexico with 30% (2.4 million tonnes) of the total (table). Other major producers were Colombia, Dominican Republic, Peru, and Indonesia, together producing 35% of the world total. Despite market effects of the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, volume production of avocados in Mexico increased by 40% over 2019 levels.

In 2018, the US Department of Agriculture estimated that 231,028 hectares (570,880 acres) in total were under cultivation for avocado production in Mexico, a 6% increase over the previous year, and that 2 million tonnes would be exported. The Mexican state of Michoacán is the world leader in avocado production, accounting for 80% of all Mexican output. Most Mexican growers produce the Hass variety due to its longer shelf life for shipping and high demand among consumers.

Market

Seventy-six percent of Mexico's avocado exports go to the United States, with the free trade agreement between the US, Canada and Mexico in July 2020 facilitating avocado shipments within the North American free trade zone.

Culinary

The fruit of horticultural cultivars has a markedly higher fat content than most other fruit, mostly monounsaturated fat, and as such serves as an important staple in the diet of consumers who have limited access to other fatty foods (high-fat meats and fish, dairy products). Having a high smoke point, avocado oil is expensive compared to common salad and cooking oils, and is mostly used for salads or dips.

A ripe avocado yields to gentle pressure when held in the palm of the hand and squeezed. The flesh is prone to enzymatic browning, quickly turning brown after exposure to air. To prevent this, lime or lemon juice can be added to avocados after peeling.

It is used in both savory and sweet dishes, though in many countries not for both. The avocado is common in vegetarian cuisine as a substitute for meats in sandwiches and salads because of its high fat content.

Generally, avocado is served raw, though some cultivars, including the common 'Hass', can be cooked for a short time without becoming bitter. The flesh of some avocados may be rendered inedible by heat. Prolonged cooking induces this chemical reaction in all cultivars

It is used as the base for the Mexican dip known as guacamole, as well as a spread on corn tortillas or toast, served with spices. Avocado is a primary ingredient in avocado soup. Avocado slices are frequently added to hamburgers and tortas and is a key ingredient in California rolls and other makizushi ("maki", or rolled sushi).

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[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Screenshot this comment. Michelle Obama will run after Trump and everybody will love her

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[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just saw someone say that leftist men are on average more misogynistic than frat guys, and while I’m sure it’s a getting yelled at fetish thing, still seems crazy to even try. Like you gotta be able to distinguish in your mind using misogynistic language due to tone deafness and guys who chant “no means yes, yes means anal”

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Another day another crashout.

I fucking could have just had a job and been working, and also taking some classes at a community college. Maybe on weekends I could just hang out with friends.

But nooooo, porky had to go and “fix” everything. We don’t have any more jobs left because people working is a problem porky wanted to “solve”. And thanks to his solution, I’m an unemployed loser literally because porky is too lazy to expand his business.

Housing and education are literal luxuries. Again, all thanks to porky “fixing” things.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Playing Cathay in Total War Warhammer, the faction based on China. It's so comically orientalist. "Fighting as one mind" is the classic Asian hivemind trope, constant yapping about "the mighty dragon" and "our honorable ancestors". Can't blame the devs too much for this since it's just adapting a decade-old IP, but it's pretty cringe not gonna lie.

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[–] asa_red_heathen@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

600 turns down, only 300 more to go!!!

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[–] Carl@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ran into a person on lemm.ee who is doubling down on the idea that "authoritarianism" is only when governments do it and that corporations and private citizens cannot be authoritarian. agony-soviet

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[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Turns out my scintillating scotoma yesterday was actually the first symptom I had of a Covid infection yea

I know it’s been around 5 years, but goddamn Fort Detrick made a weird ass virus. Hoping to get Paxlovid tomorrow, my doctor refused to prescribe Metformin, boo.

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A friend of mine worked in bioinformatics, and I remember her constantly worrying about fitting massive datasets in small ram pools. I imagine something that made her a great programmer at the end. The llm guys are like no can do boss the cluster only has a terabyte of ram :(

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[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

the past couple weeks in the US the news cycle has essentially just been this playing on repeat in an unending crescendo

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

like it feels like something's about to break hard, I don't know where and I can't divine the ramifications, but it's apparent and it's coming moon

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Trump starting a trade war with every other western state, while there’s a bird flu pandemic ravaging livestock. 2025 is gonna be wild ride.

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[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Guy who stops playing with a keyboard and mouse in all games because he saw the “real yakuza use a controller” splash screen

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[–] thatslife@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've applied to about 4 jobs over the week and good god I hope any of them respond, I need work so badly pain

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Xhs now running ads on twitter lmao

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

my HVAC unit broke again in under a decade lets goooooo

Gotta wait until monday to call up anybody to schedule a date to fix it so I get to spend probably a whole week with my house sitting in -10 Celsius weather lets gooooooo

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[–] Woly@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think about falling down stairs a lot. Like, maybe it would be fun y'know, just sorta mix things up a bit. Some nice carpeted stairs in an office, mmmmmmm, I could fall down those. Or some big marble stairs at an old train station, that would be something. Falling down stairs. Think about it.

[–] rhubarb@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There is a new viral trend among teenagers, they call it "Falling Down Stairs". Could your child be in danger?

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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Jeff Probstz the host of survivor has got to have one the best damn jobs ever. Spend your time in nice tropical places on a TV show's dime and your job is to explain ovstacle courses, say what people are doing when they obstacle course, goad people into conflict with one another and act superior to a bunch of american jerks you stranded on a beach. Then some ADR work later.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (7 children)

One of my coworkers told me the female lizard from Rango was hot and I didn’t know what to say

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[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

New Chapo mentioned Dracula Flow

dracula-flow matt-guerrilla

This shit ain't nothing to me man

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Partner: there's so much great banjo music out there and you don't listen to any of it.

Me: Ah, thanks. :)

Partner: that wasn't a compliment!

Needless to say I've turned into Ryo.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] Woly@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Damn reddit is fucking grim right now.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
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[–] wombat@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

it is february 1 and stalin saved the world from fascism

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I honestly never would have guessed that wokeness was the only think keeping American planes in the air.

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[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i'm going to miss affordable tequila cri

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[–] asa_red_heathen@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lmao the dams in California Trump ordered the army to open without telling anyone are above the Tulare Lake (Thats the giant freshwater lake that used to exist until Californian farmers destroyed it by redirecting the rivers that flowed into it to irrigate their shitty cash crops, destroying the local environment). JDPON Don out there drowning farmers and healing the environment.

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[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Moviedetails: in kill bill vol 1 when she’s walking through the Tokyo airport with a katana, no one reacts because it’s not unusual for a white tourist to walk around with a katana for no reason.

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[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Natalie in severance is so creepy and hot bonk

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[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Me on a train: i like trains also I need to fart

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[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

I made the mistake of doing my taxes today (shouldn’t be thinking about this right now), but I’ve been making the same amount since I graduated college in 2020 and that really fucking hit me.

You know how the world typically progresses at least somewhat and old ways age out? It looks like the old ways are hanging on for dear life and bringing everything and everyone down with them.

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Having a bad day wouldn't be so bad if it was happening on a good hair day. But I'm having a bad day AND a bad hair day

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Another work day dealing with understaffingyes-honey-left

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Google Maps changed the name of Turkey to Türkiye? When did this happen? Is Türkiye becoming the more popular English spelling?

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[–] ComradeSpahija@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Today I stopped at a cafe to get a cold drink (it's over 30°C over here, I'm not used to not having a winter!) and met other French people there; after quickly talking about our travels, we veered into talking about politics, and we ended up talking for almost 3h! I'm very glad to say that they seemed very receptive to what I brought up (Palestine, Ukraine, imperialism and the labour aristocracy, the inevitability of capitalism's downfall (falling rate of profit, etc…), the human catastrophe that was the illegal dissolution of the USSR, the role of fascism in preserving capitalism, the fundamentally neoliberal nature of the EU, and the PRC's great successes in poverty alleviation, green energy and public infrastructure). I didn't start too overly Marx-pilled but after it seemed that they had an open-mind on Communism I ended up just speaking genuinely about these subjects without much filters, but they seemed interested all throughout and frequently asked questions. I'm very happy, it doesn't happen often that I get to talk about Marxism so openly and feeling like I actually helped someone to understand it better!

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