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UnitedHealthcare threatening to sue Dr. Elisabeth Potter MD for her Instagram video and the comments supporting Luigi it received. This video discussing the time she was interrupted in the middle of a patient's surgery by a United representative to ask whether the patient really needed to stay overnight to recover.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

you are doing something right if a insurance company gets mad over your tweets/posts.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Well if they want us to stop they can offer actual coverage and service.

[–] Frost752@lemmy.world 201 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 31 points 2 weeks ago

Parasite big mad the pedons started noticing the excessive leeching.

[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 139 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Amazing that UHC and their lawyer think they can fuck over a doctor, and then try to force the doctor to lie about UHC did to them.

[–] adhocfungus@midwest.social 37 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, what do they hope to get out of this? If they're worried about damage to their brand/image then threatening a doctor is not helping.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 29 points 2 weeks ago

*lawyers

And the plural is part of why. They've always just been able to throw money at the problem.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago

These kind of reactions always remind me of the quote:

"You own everything that happened to you. Tell your stories. If people wanted you to write warmly about them, they should have behaved better." - Anne Lemott

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago

You would think that a company dealing with doctors so often would know that they like to keep records, be ethical, and help their patients.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 111 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Sounds like healthcare CEOs still unfortunately don't fear being dropped from the life premium plus plan by a 9mm bullet enough.

Look I don't casually condone violence, but these people are unambiguously mass murderers who will see no justice for their crimes, being against violence in this context has become a very complicated question.

I do not relish the multitude of pitfalls this road has waiting to push us into blind hate, that is why leftists like me advocate so hard for universal healthcare.

The violence of denying basic necessary healthcare does not simply happen and then disappear like a flash of lightning, it adds another snowflake to the teetering snowbank up on the mountain.

The potential energy will become kinetic energy at some point, the only real thing in question is whether we will destroy ourselves in the process, which is why advocates for universal healthcare are so incessant and demanding, they know not proactively dealing with this will eventually lead to terrible violence.

[–] raskolnikov@lemm.ee 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

being against violence in this context has become a very complicated question.

Reminds me of the French Revolution. Big changes like that were attained through violence. We've rightfully pushed away from violence to become a better society, but it is clear that the changes we want will not be obtained with likes and TikTok dances (or comments like this, ironically). The rich and powerful do not fear the people anymore because of this. People can strike all they want but the elites have learned that they just need to sit and wait (see Gilets Jaunes French protests or Iranian protests) because no one will even dare punch them in the face. Luigi was an exception and they are trying to flag this as a one time incident.

All of this is sickening, to be honest.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Violence never solved anything, unless you look at all of human history.

Just about every good societal change only happened after massive violence. Even in the case of nonviolent movements like Gandhi's Indian independence movement, he probably wouldn't have been successful if the state had responded non-violently. The massive violence inflicted on his movement is what drew international attention, forcing the British to change.

A handful of CEOs getting shot in the head might be seen as a small warning sign that things need to change. If that change doesn't happen, the result might be the kind of chaos you got with the French Revolution.

Say you're a French aristocrat in Grenoble, hit by a flying roof tile. Is the smart move to get a bunch of soldiers to go round up as many civilians as possible and torture them to figure out who threw the tile? Or is the smart move to head back to your estate set your serfs free, give them some of your stuff, and ask them to please spread the word that you're one of the good aristocrats and a man of the people?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

The potential energy will become kinetic energy

Brilliant. I'm stealing this. You can't stop me.

[–] TheAristocrat@lemmy.world 87 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

My personal favorite insurance story comes from a neurologist I know. They were trying to get a prior authorization approved for a curative hemispherectomy. For those outside the medical field, that basically boils down to removing half of someone's brain to try to cure an uncontrollable seizure disorder. This is usually limited to patients under 4 years old to maximize motor and language development, but I digress. After much arguing with the insurance representative, it was approved on the grounds that the patient only gets one.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 62 points 2 weeks ago

After much arguing with the insurance representative, it was approved on the grounds that the patient only gets one.

The representative was afraid that the patient could replace him after the second operation.

[–] Taiatari@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you were to get a second, would you have then one quarter brain left or non at all?

(Obviously this is a joke post)

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

If were to get a second, you'd work at United healthcare

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

They seem to always authorize it multiple times for their own adjusters.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

I know somebody with a little kid that needed a hemispherectomy like that.

Let me just say fuck that representative in particular. Of course, fuck their managers and executives even more.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 86 points 2 weeks ago

Corpo-empathy claim denied.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago

UHC was so upset about the video that it contacted Clare Locke, a Virginia-based defamation law firm to chase down the doc. Potter said the law firm sent her a letter, dated January 13, that she has posted on her Instagram page. UHC’s version of events is that Potter’s office had filed paperwork incorrectly and that it would never ask her to leave surgery to talk to them

So what does UHC want the doctor to do? “You must promptly correct the record by removing your videos, posting a public apology to UnitedHealthcare, and condemning threats of violence aimed at our client resulting from your posts,” the letter said. It also wants Potter to contact Newsweek and other outlets that reported the story to ask them to remove the stories entirely. Something that Potter would have no power to do, even if she wanted to.

In Luigi we trust. 💚

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm sorry, you haven't met my "give a fuck" deductible yet.

It's completely broken. Burn it down so we can build something better.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe those assholes should discuss whether it's ok to call doctors in the middle of a procedure?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sue her for what, exactly? Trying to make the point that your company is pure evil?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 weeks ago

that your company is pure evil?

Yes, exactly that. Further proof that the company is pure evil.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 45 points 2 weeks ago

They'll do absolutely anything to stop negative public sentiment.

Well, anything except not being pieces of shit.

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He’s basically real-life Johnny Silverhand nuking Arasaka Tower and the takeaway from that incident was that it did absolutely nothing.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It pissed off Arasaka. Which, as far as I can tell, was Johnny's goal.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We could name a drink after him.....

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Bonus, he's still alive for now. We could even make sure it's a drink he wants named after him.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

WAIT YOU'RE SO RIGHT THOUGH

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're asking for a lot of negative attention. Too bad Luigi is in jail.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

With a big enough group we could fix that.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Sufficiently motivated individuals can work as well. As we've seen.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago

Truth is a defense to defamation claims. If she wants to call their bluff, she should be able to beat them in court. Counterclaim for tortious interference with business. We'll serve discovery on them for how their unqualified deniers interfered with her business. We will also fight protective orders trying to keep that information out of the public's hands.

I am a licensed Texas lawyer. If I wasn't so busy doing other work (I write software professionally today because I got tired of the stress of multi-million dollar litigation), I'd take the case.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing!

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago

The important thing is for all of us not to forget.

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

United’s latest circus act: harassing a surgeon for exposing their Kafkaesque bureaucracy. Peak clownshow.

Potter scrubbed out mid-surgery to beg an insurance drone for mercy. Spoiler: the drone had less medical knowledge than WebMD.

The kicker? United claims they’d never interrupt care while their legal team’s busy interrupting justice. Corporate gaslighting: level 100.

Memo to UHC: rename your denial department “The Luigi Mangione Memorial Rejection Hotline.”

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Part of the disconnect from the ruling class compared to us plebs is that they saw us compliant and thought we were totally cool with all this.

But that’s how these things work and there is always a breaking point.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I hope that point involves Elon. It would be nice if he hung around with Mr. Mussolini.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

Not just mad… Big Mad! ™

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

UHC doing a bang up job to change public opinion

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago

If they think, hey can suppress public sentiment by suing that Doctor... their PR team aint doing their work lol

I love seeing the enemy make these mistakes. I don't even have to argue my talking points.

It is scared!

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

reel where she talks about them calling her https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEid-1npNbA/

image post with the demand letter https://www.instagram.com/p/DFlR1CrJ688/

Reel discussing the letter https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFlvK_MtpGb/

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Am I crazy, or in her signature does it show that her middle name is "House"?

The signature, which seems to read Elisabeth House Potter

It must have been an interesting experience for any doctor with "House" in their name, in this profession 15 or so years ago.

[–] Dezzillion@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

hero says WAAAAH