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Lubbock County, Texas, joins a group of other rural Texas counties that have voted to ban women from using their roads to seek abortions.

This comes after six cities and counties in Texas have passed abortion-related bans, out of nine that have considered them. However, this ordinance makes Lubbock the biggest jurisdiction yet to pass restrictions on abortion-related transportation.

During Monday's meeting, the Lubbock County Commissioners Court passed an ordinance banning abortion, abortion-inducing drugs and travel for abortion in the unincorporated areas of Lubbock County, declaring Lubbock County a "Sanctuary County for the Unborn."

The ordinance is part of a continued strategy by conservative activists to further restrict abortion since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade as the ordinances are meant to bolster Texas' existing abortion ban, which allows private citizens to sue anyone who provides or "aids or abets" an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy.

The ordinance, which was introduced to the court last Wednesday, was passed by a vote of 3-0 with commissioners Terence Kovar, Jason Corley and Jordan Rackler, all Republicans, voting to pass the legislation while County Judge Curtis Parrish, Republican, and Commissioner Gilbert Flores, Democrat, abstained from the vote.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 122 points 8 months ago

Everything else aside, that's about as clear a violation of the Commerce Clause as you can get.

The inability of states to regulate interstate commerce was settled by the courts in 1824.

The same laws that allows firearms to be shipped through states where they're illegal protects abortion-seekers on Texas roads

[-] rothaine@lemm.ee 62 points 8 months ago

was settled by the courts in 1824.

Nothing is "settled" with the current Supreme Court.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Commerce Clause is about as settled as it can get, though. Especially with a Court so enamoured with Founders Intent. Gibbons v Ogden is probably only behind Marbury v Madison in sacred status to this Court.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 114 points 8 months ago

Why does Texas hate freedom so much?

[-] superguy@lemm.ee 39 points 8 months ago

Texans are some of the most delusional people on the planet.

For some reason, even the democrats there think it's better than states like Florida. It isn't.

The only state that is objectively worse than Texas is Louisiana, and that's saying something.

[-] lanolinoil@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

You clearly don't know what you're talking about since you skipped Mississippi, land of waffle House and sadness.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 72 points 8 months ago

Cool... driving whilst pregnant is the latest thing to fear US police over then. Wait until the first pregnant woman is shot as part of a routine traffic stop checking for abortion plans.

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[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 8 months ago

How tf would they even enforce this?

“Are you traveling to get an abortion?” “No, I’m going to visit family”

How would they prove otherwise? Is there something I’m missing?

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 61 points 8 months ago

The correct answer is “I don’t want to talk about my day.”

[-] TimLovesTech@sh.itjust.works 23 points 8 months ago

" Am I being detained or am I free to go?" If detained "then you shut the fuck up!"

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[-] Feddyteddy@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 8 months ago

You're missing the right to privacy in your phone. Make sure you didn't put the clinic into Google maps or make a call to them ahead of time. Governmental AI is on the way and it will be steered by the same people making these rules.

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 35 points 8 months ago

LEAs have been shown to actively track women who use search engines or messaging services to seek information about abortion services. There's a non-zero chance that women who they suspect, and their friends and family, are tagged in their system when they search the plates of someone passing by.

It's not about lying to cops, particularly if they can already prove you were seeking those services in the first place. At that point they'll arrest you with probable cause.

They already use that kind of system with drug dealers. If they suspect you sell drugs, they will tag your name and plate and find a reason to pull you over if they spot you. Why would they hesitate to track women like that?

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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 23 points 8 months ago

It basically gives them an excuse to detain any woman they want, which is the purpose.

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[-] Zippit@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago

I'm sorry but this makes Texas less than a third world country. This is just backwards and medieval.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 28 points 8 months ago

Pregnancy check road blocks sure sound fun

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[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

The Party of Small Government, Ladies and Gentlemen. The most grotesque joke since The Aristocrats.

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[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago

This won't be directly enforced. It will be used to add more punishment to those caught trying to get an abortion.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago

Not just those getting an abortion, but anyone helping them. It's designed to isolate pregnant women so that they have no one to turn to if they need help.

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[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 33 points 8 months ago

Or more worryingly, used as an excuse by cops to stop any woman they want whenever they want on suspicion they're trying to get an abortion.

And then they can force women to take pregnancy tests on the spot, which will require stripping for giving urine samples, giving police plausible deniability to rape whoever they want.

Mark my words, it WILL happen.

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[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 57 points 8 months ago

this is the dumbest antifreedom thing I've seen in months. just how can anyone think this is a good idea.

I bet the cookers who dreamt up this scheme were against covid lockdowns aswell

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 56 points 8 months ago

How the fuck do you even enforce this?

[-] snf@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago

The ordinance is enforceable through the private enforcement mechanism which has proven its success in both the Lubbock City Ordinance and the Texas Heartbeat Act. This is how the ordinance is enforced,

So: snitching.

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 28 points 8 months ago

By stopping all cars with pregnant women and telling them they aren't allowed to leave the county. I imagine that's what they might end up doing.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago

I'd say that'd wind up in front of the Supreme Court really fucking quickly...

Except, I think that's what they're counting on...

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

They're also counting on people without means not being able to take it to court to begin with. A quick look at a map tells me there's an airport in Lubbock county, I bet there hasn't been a law introduced to keep pregnant women off of an airplane...

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[-] Gazumi@lemmy.world 50 points 8 months ago

Texan Taliban impose driving ban

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[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 50 points 8 months ago

Texas is where freedom goes to die

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[-] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 50 points 8 months ago

This sounds incredibly illegal? Where the fuck is the law?

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 46 points 8 months ago

Doesn't this run afoul of the commerce clause?

A random ass County can't ban travel on any roads or highway for any reason, right? That's strictly the job of congress.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

Also I'd like to add:

How about this worthless board look into why there is so much crime in the county before Talibaning travel for women?

You have a 1 in 92 chance of being a victim of violent crime in Lubbock County compared to a 1 in 220 chance in the rest of Texas

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[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

Conservatives are garbage.

[-] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

Also Texas: "Why are we having so much trouble recruiting OB-gyns? Why do we have to close so many rural obstetrics departments?"

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

We should probably also have them start wearing masks and robes over their faces/bodies too, to prevent them from having unwanted pregnancies. Actually, just don't even give driver's licenses to women in the first place, since they should always be getting escorted by their fathers or husbands in the first place, they really shouldn't even be allowed to drive. And if we wanted to reduce unemployment, we could just require all these women in the workplace to go back to being stay-at-home moms, like God intended, freeing up all those jobs for hard-working American men to work at. Send me money if you agree.

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[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 46 points 8 months ago

This shouldn't be a problem based on how they think abortions work...the woman didn't go out FOR an abortion, she was out shopping and decided to get one, like picking up a snack on your way out of the market!

Seriously it's deranged. If they behaved generally like they care about the 'children' and the women, I could accept they're at least acting in good faith according to their dumbass beliefs, but they don't seem to care except for outlawing and restricting women's activities, so it's clear that those who say the point is just to subjugate women are right.

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 8 months ago

And then they scream land of the free

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 24 points 8 months ago

It's like Saudi Arabia, where women are completely free to do exactly what men tell them to do.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

If you think laws cannot get more ridiculous, Texas proves you wrong.

How are they going to enforce this? Police patrols on highways stopping each and every car with a female in it that is of "eglible age" and submit her to a mandatory pregnancy test before she is allowed to leave the state - only if test is negative? And put those who happen to be positive into a "pregnancy protection ward" or something?

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 33 points 8 months ago

Starting the stopwatch for the next pregnant woman shot dead by police to stop her from getting an abortion

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[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

Wait... I thought it was us socialists that were all about the thoughtcrimes?

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 32 points 8 months ago

Maybe women should just GTFO of Texas. Anything vag related and doctors won't want to do anything incase you're pregnant.

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[-] Skates@feddit.nl 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I didn't think Texans would be so easily convinced to give up their civil liberties, this doesn't sound like the "stand your ground" state. If this isn't reason enough for the people of Texas to make use of the second amendment's right to bare arms, intended exactly for situations like this - for citizens to protect themselves when their government oversteps, I don't know what is.

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[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 25 points 8 months ago

And so the tyranny begins.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 38 points 8 months ago

Begins? I'd say "returns" at best, but more probably "continues" or "intensifies".

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago

Sanctuary for the Unborn and Cemetery for the Born. #Freedom.

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