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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If Trump backs down on the tariffs, Canada should only back down halfway. Make it clear there are permanent consequences every time he fucks with the world economy on a whim.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not an optional strategy even though it feels like it should be. With this kind of animal you either go tit for tat or scorched earth.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's not Trump you're negotiating with with that kind of strategy. It's the GOP.

I meant to write optimal, sorry.

The problem with trying to sway the GOP is that right now each one of them is about as charming as a poultry farm, and you need some charisma to build an oppositional faction within the party. If you were talking about a Schwarzenegger-led "normalcy" caucus we'd be cooking, but the current rogue's gallery is as dull as dishwater and half as palatable.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 51 points 6 days ago

We get it. Bring on the pain. Seriously. Fuck Trump.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 72 points 6 days ago (8 children)

The Americans chose, or allowed their opponents to choose him. The voters own all of the next 4 years.

But yes, when was the last time inaction in protest worked?

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What happens in 4 years? I’d be surprised if there was another election for a while.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

They'll have an election. You just won't be allowed to vote against the glorious leader.

Or a marginally less cynical take, targeted voter surpression will mean that only republicans get elected president. So in four years they'll get president Vance.

[–] Nay@feddit.nl 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Place your bets folks! Does he croak in office and We get another asshole at the helm? So many possibilities

$10,000->choking on peanut

$1000->exactly as the Simpson predicted

$200->Boeing misshalf..don't worry they'll fix it

$5->COVID

$1->accidental window fall

$0.5->not accidental window fall..10 stories

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How does that work in US politics? Can Congress raise a vote of no confidence?

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Their process is more complicated.

For congress to remove Trump first the house needs to vote with a 50% majority to impeach Trump for “Treason, bribery, or high crimes” the house does get to decide if something Trump has done meets that bar.

Then the senate needs to decide to have a trial not a criminal or civil trial, but a trial to decide of Trump should be removed from office.

Then the house gets to present its case proving the crime, then if the senate votes with a 2/3rds majority to convict, Trump would e removed from office, and barred from any future government office. If convicted, VP Vance would become the president until the next election.

Impeachment is a remedial process, not a punitive one, it can only remove Trump from office it can’t punish him for his crimes, though he may face a separate criminal trial for the same crime at that point.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

So, remember how a few months ago, the South Korean president and defense minister declared martial law and tried to openly stage a military coup?

I expect that to happen here. Congress won’t do shit about it - they’ll lean into it, because the “opposition” has all the backbone of a sea cucumber, and the GOP congresspersons have either drunk the kool-aid, or (like the “opposition”) have been scared into compliance.

And I expect the insurrection act to be invoked (which lets the president deputize more or less whoever he wants… so, proud boys et al will be the new brownshirts). And I don’t think many people understand how much of a real threat those wingnut militias are. They’ve got a LOT more guerrilla/resistance-cell-type organization than most realize. It’s one of the reasons I’m so deeply concerned about this whole shitshow. And one of his first act was to pardon a few thousand people, a lot of whom were involved in or sympathetic to those militias, so he’s got died-hard followers in that crowd. Like, “I won’t ever question your orders” die hard. He’s made himself into a very literal savior figure for them.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

We get it. By all means, Trudeau, bring the pain. Show America there are consequences. If you don’t, this will happen again. And again. And again.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (4 children)

If we’re truly a government “of the people, by the people, and for the people” then we did it to ourselves.

If we’re not that then we should “dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another”

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s on ourselves. It sucks but here we are….

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 15 points 6 days ago (5 children)

We've been railroaded if not cheated every step of the way. It's not our fault, though it is our responsibility

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That bit makes more sense when you factor in Scotus making corporations people.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 5 days ago
[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Pretty much, yeah. Republicans are malignant tumors.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

Yes, be more direct and be human. Explaining thing like “ETMI5” will get your point/message across and be understood. Like others have said, if we, the US, back down, Canada should only roll back half way after a certain period of time. We have to learn our lesson. The president is being an uneducated child and he represents us, we should be treated like a child. We all learned a lesson before and we lived and learn. Time to do so again. Turn up the heat!

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is there a website that hosts the video and actually works?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's got too high of a tariff to be served to you.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 days ago

it's democracy, it's written in the name. i remember a college professor constantly on about the need for a constitutional convention, wrote a book or some shit.

I was like, you know the crazies will consume any such convention, right?

challenging him kinda fucked it up but i was not wrong.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Not really "our government". Trump has chosen to do this.

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (18 children)

It is your government. This is your head of state and the head of the US government weilding power that once belonged to Congress but ceeded to the executive branch about a hundred years ago. This man represents you.

I understand it is uncomfortable. That you wish it wasn't so I get it... But Do not diminish this fact because these are the stakes. He is your, I repeat Your, Government. Do not wash your hands of him acting as he does because in your silence and denial he still acts on your behalf and you need so much more than silence and denial.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Nope you guys wanted this by either not voting or by voting trump.

[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Imo its more nuanced than that.

If there was only the popular vote, which makes more sense than electorate fuckery, we would have avoided round 1 in 2016.

The system of political choice is really broken in the US, that was just one example. None of us chose the political system we use, we are presented with limited and similar options for representation every two years in a first past the post vote.

I agree that we failed to prevent this, but the system is kind of rigged

I don’t care about the nuance, that’s your idiot country’s problem. I care about the jackass you guys put in charge

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