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Summary

Donald Trump, speaking at the Justice Department, called for jailing officials behind the 2021 Afghanistan withdrawal and defended allies while attacking critics.

He praised Judge Aileen Cannon, who dismissed his classified documents case, and condemned those who criticized her.

Trump called former special counsel Jack Smith “deranged” and referred to Jan. 6 defendants as “hostages.”

His remarks, delivered before Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel, underscore his escalated rhetoric on retribution now that he holds presidential power again.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 117 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I’m calling for killing the king, should we ever get one in the United States. I’m not saying that the president is a king, I’m just saying that if someone were to become a king, instead of a president, they should be executed.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

"Shoot that fucker if he walks near the throne."

Brother Ali

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I mean, I publicly say I wish Trumps shooter hadn't missed so badly, and that Trump had caught the bullet with his empty fucking skull. I just wish when his skull gets blown apart, it's on live TV, so I can enjoy having it as my screensaver in uncensored HD.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We were millimeters away from freedom.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As bad as I wanted to see that happen, this problem doesn't go away when one man dies. It's clear that we need to see where this path leads before we learn our lesson. I wish that weren't true, but it is.

[–] TrippaSnippa@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Cults of personality fall apart when the leader dies though.

However, I agree that you can't just assassinate your way out of a deep, societal sickness. You have to address the underlying symptoms or it will just flare up again.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Germans did a remarkable job at addressing their issues and changing their society for the better.

Unlike the US did after the civil war. Or after Trump's first reign and insurrection.

Hopefully they'll learn the lesson there.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, my country learned its lesson only through a new generation having grown up in the results of the war. Before 68 talking about Nazis still being judges, prosecutors, heads of police etc. wasn't really tolerated in polite society. Policy was always "Don't speak about it, don't acknowledge it, just move along and everything's fine."

Only the gigantic student protests in the late 60s early 70s changed that and created the culture of honest confrontation and dealing with the past. And it is highly under threat now that the post-war generation, the babyboomers are leaving the demographics, because people are forgetting how hard that culture had to be fought for. They had to fight conservatives tooth and nail for it and now it's slowly drifting out of focus.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What? And make him a martyr?

I want him to cark it at a campaign rally. Pop a blood vessel in his skull, while pushing a little too hard on a constipated shit, only to lose the last shred of a fragment of sanity. To see him collapse onto the ground growling and chewing on the podium.

To quote G’kar… it’s a dream I have.

[–] raoulduke85@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Assuming it wasn’t staged.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Very little in life is staged. I've worked in a theatre, with professional actors, and it still takes weeks of work to pull off a play.

This also includes some improv work.

So the very first thing you have to acknowledge is that Trump would never do the work needed to pull off anything staged. He can read (sort of) a speech written by someone else, but the smarmy bastard cannot act to save his life.

The next thing here, Crooks was using live rounds. And killed a guy behind Trump. Trump would never allow his own life to be put at risk.

And third, Crooks was a notoriously bad shot. He was kicked out of his highschool gun club over it and some safety violations.

The kid was a mass shooter in waiting who just so happened to come across an opportunity to shoot a former president. And he blew it, just one more failure to add to the pile that was his life.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have my doubts as well. I had the displeasure of being near him, in person, shortly after it happened and his ear looked fucking fine.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Small cuts can be sealed with medical grade super glue. Also, the thought is that Trump was hit by glass or other debris. Not the bullet itself.

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[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If your guillotine blade isn't sharp, at least make sure it's heavy.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

everything is a blade if it falls fast enough

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

ASAP. And ideally before they actually become king. Like, if there's gonna be a crowning or whatever ceremony, they shouldn't get to make it. They'll have a prior engagement with a hooded figure.

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump and Musk should be handled before they reach king status.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They should have never made it this far. obviously a fully corrupt and for sale president is ideal for a lot of powerful people.

[–] faberyayo@lemm.ee 25 points 2 days ago

Yep, another day in a perfectly fine democracy

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

It was his dumbass and his sec def who organized the withdrawal.

[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Donald Trump, speaking at the Justice Department, called for jailing officials behind the 2021 Afghanistan withdrawal and defended allies while attacking critics

I mean Trump was practically responsible for the US leaving Afghanistan.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean Trump was practically responsible for the US leaving Afghanistan.

*cough Night of the Long Knives cough

I mean we literally just had Musk pushing the narrative that Hitler wasn't at fault for killing so many because it was really the fault of the bureaucrats who followed his orders.

Leopard, meet faces.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not practically actually, he set the timeline too soon and everyone said hey great idea stupid timeline. The time runs out and Biden keeps to Trump's set deadline and it's a shit show exactly like everyone expected. And yet somehow a large percentage of people blame it on Biden and almost certainly would have blamed him if they extended to pullout agreement.

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He did actually extend from May to September, but still it was too fast trying to honor the spirit of speedy withdrawal Trump had negotiated.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The military was dragging its feet and Biden had enough of it.

Didn’t Obama want to get out of Afghanistan but the military couldn’t be rushed?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Correct. Pullouts rapidly always lead to power vacuums you can't just dip out and expect things to workout. I dunno if you've been around a daycare when the teacher leaves but the reactions are similar.

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

It's been less than 100 years...

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The number of pages from Putins book are disturbing. What countries will take skilled American refugees?

[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck that, be a patriot and get strapped.

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah. When Elmo’s Staff Strudel come knocking down my door, they will be met with violence.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You can pretty much go anywhere in Latin America and a lot of Asia is aware they need immigration to succeed, as for Europe Spain is he most friendly to immigrants, they will work with many people who wish to immigrate rather than combat them. Stay far far away from Australia, or NZ, they are generally hostile to immigrants, and if you're really unlucky they might strand you on an island and never let you back off. I've really not looked seriously at Africa, it's an interesting prospect, but anyway, it's hard to immigrate, but it's possible and a lot of people enjoy the changes.

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

a lot of Asia is aware they need immigration to succeed,

While this is true, it doesn't necessarily mean they're open to it or that the immigration process is any easier for it.

as for Europe Spain is he most friendly to immigrants

I've heard that attitude is changing due to gentrification issues. Lots of remote workers have taken to the country and cost of living has apparently risen up in response.

I'm not entirely sure about either of these personally though(insight from people who live there would be wonderful), but I have heard about about the issues.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

Only concerning thing is climate change. if America keeps going its path I'm not sure warmer countries are where I want to be.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

This isn't an escalation, he said this and worse while running.

[–] johncandy1812@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

All these stupid bitches wearing white.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As an actual opponent, come and get me yourself you cowardly fat orange fuck.

Dare someone to do something about it.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

well, i don't know about that

Grandfather that was just read this article.
These people don't care. It's infuriating.

[–] upandup@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nazis. Either you are Nancy, or you decree the Nazis. Anything less than denouncing Nazis means that you are a Nazi that was the standard in the 1940s, and it carries to today.

Unless you denounce Nazis, you’re automatically a Nazi.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Correct. Nazi apologists are Nazis.

If 10 people are at dinner when a Nazi joins them, and none leave or tries to kick them out, you have 11 Nazis.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does Schumer know that Trump means him? He can't be that dence, can he? We know he's spineless, but does he grasp the situation in full.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

He has a lot more on common with Trump than I ever will.

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