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[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

We should actually use an opensource, decentralized and private alternative instead of relying on another centralized service

See Fileverse for example: https://fileverse.io/

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 8 minutes ago

Checked out the site on mobile, and it was unresponsive to any of my clicks.

[–] Slax@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I agree but having two major countries using this might be a good move for more efforts from nations. I know Canada still uses all M$FT platforms and recently moved to EXO.

Purpose built projects like this would be easy for public servants to adopt and adapt their workflow.

[–] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I wish we did with more open source and local software. My school in Canada has some agreement with Microsoft so we have to use everything from them.
The school mail used for all accounts is hosted by outlook
The databases are all azure
The 2fa app on our phone to boot the school computer has to be Microsoft (even gave me shit because I am root...)
Teams
We had a whole course for a year on how to use word.

It's a public school. Obviously with this most students will move to the USA for higher pay, we are literally subsidizing the USA education.

[–] Slax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

The school board here uses Google, and Microsoft... I emailed their board and the province's privacy commissionaire asking why. I grew up with an agenda, and that shit worked better than using a website and email for JK/SK aged kids.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 2 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago) (2 children)

What do folks think of cryptpad? ~~Thinking of~~ more like planning on switching from proton after CEO bullshit

[–] anon593839@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

I personally really like Cryptpad. I haven't heard of Fileverse, so I'll check it out. Cryptpad is the closest thing I've found to a drop-in Google Suite replacement.

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

I'll look into that one too, I didn't know about it

Which bullshit are you talking about? I might have missed it and my search didn't bring much on it

edit: I think i found it: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40123727/17360792

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah agreed - anything not FOSS is just setting up another bad situation waiting to happen

[–] notastatist@feddit.org 6 points 2 hours ago

It says in one of the first paragraphs, that its open-source

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

So FramaSoft is not a thing ?? It's French

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

[–] RichardDegenne@lemm.ee 26 points 5 hours ago

Bro has been sleeping under a rock for the past 10 years.

[–] SaraTonin@lemm.ee 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It’s definitely been the direction of travel for the last several years. Not because the products are better, but because it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 4 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

They also work on android and IOS. You are also not dependent on the different toolkits. Also it is so much more performant.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 19 minutes ago

They also work on android and IOS.

I can imagine it'll be a 160 MB app that loads the website in a webview, like it usually is

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

A bit of both I guess

Web apps have the advantage of not requiring admin permission and being accessible from pretty much everywhere, and they are often less intensive I believe

And I guess cloud storage of documents makes it even better

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 minutes ago

no office software requires admin eighter unless you want to install it for all users

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

I guess I don't mind if I can self host the server. If I can't I have no interest in touching it.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A good web app is awesome!

But the big ones usually wants to have a native app so that they can scan your whole computer and so on. This is good news.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 minutes ago

which is fine if you deny network connections for it with a per-process firewall. but with a webapp you can never be sure that they won't snatch your documents.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 83 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

In the README there's also instructions for Docker Compose, although it's quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I'd want to self-host.

[–] Tramort@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago

Please develop this self hosted version using sandstorm

It makes hosting a breeze with one click installation

[–] Lodra@programming.dev 15 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't like the approach of piling more things on top of even more things to achieve the same goal as the base, frankly speaking. A "local" kubernetes cluster serve no purpose other than incredible complexity for little to no gain over a mere docker-compose. And a small cluster would work equally well with docker swarm.

A service, even made of multiple parts, should always be described that way. It's easy to move "up" the stack of complexity, if you so desire. Having "have a k8s cluster with helm" working as the base requirement sounds insane to me.

[–] Lodra@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yea I’m not a fan of helm either. In fact, I avoid charts when possible. But kustomize is great.

I feel the same way about docker compose. If it wasn’t already obvious, I’m biased in favor of k8s. I like and prefer that interface. But that’s just preference. If you like docker compose, great!

There’s one point where I do disagree however. There are scenarios where a local k8s cluster has a good and clear purpose. If your production environment runs on k8s, then it’s best to mirror that locally as much as possible. In fact, there are many apps that even require a k8s api to run. Plus, being able to destroy and rebuild your entire k8s cluster in 30s is wonderful for local testing.

Edit: typos

[–] Metju@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Seconding k3d (and, by extension, k3s). If you're in a market for sth suitable for more upstream-compliant clustering solution (k3s uses SQLite instead of etcd, iirc), RKE2 is also a great choice

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 40 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What was wrong with libre?

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 18 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The web browser is the future, especially for a crappy document editor and spread sheet.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Libre only does local document collaboration, having it online is helpful for teams far from each other or who simply don't have the infrastructure for their own central server of this kind.

[–] ulair@lemmy.world 36 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Well this has been running in our Nextcloud and works pretty well collaboratively :) https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online not sure how it scales, but definitely an alternative that can be built on

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[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 50 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Surprised they didn't go with cryptpad - aren't they already French?

[–] zonnewin@feddit.nl 15 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Fuck :( Didn't know that... I got convinced by the company being supposedly Latvian.

[–] hikuro93@lemmy.ca 30 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

Yes, that's excellent. We need our own Google suite. Fingers crossed so that it may come eventually.

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