New version still misspells it "Mastadon" haha
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Spotify shouldn't be on this list... They exploit artists and platform joe rogans horseshit for profit
Qobuz is great though, they also provide lossless music which Spotify still don’t.
And i think they donated money to Trump also.
Why Waterfox over LibreWolf? I have only used LibreWolf, which is my 99%-of-the-time browser, and I am curious.
These charts are pretty bad put a little more effort in
Yea, in hindsight the original (https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1jcr8ks/here_is_the_new_and_improved_guide_to_help_you/) was not worth sharing.
Why not use something like Matrix (Element) as a messenger alternative?
I found it difficult to transfer contacts there compared to signal, but you're right, it's better.
Again, add Matrix or xmpp instead of just Signal & Disroot as well in the email section
Honest question, is Switzerland a part of the EU now, or do they just get a pass for being surrounded?
@RvTV95XBeo @SrMono No, but what is your gripe? Located in Europe. Spend most of their money in Europe and have the same general mentality. Strongly focused on privacy.
They are not an official member, but being surrounded by EU countries lead to them being included in a lot of treaties and such.
Oftentimes they are considered friendly.
Even in the 1930/40s?
That is offtopic 😂
I would recommend deezer over Spotify. Spotify enables Rogan and all his bullshit
Qobuz! It pays artists the best out of any streaming service appartenly
How is deezer these days? Last time I used it is many years ago.
edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Industries Access Industries owns Deezer. They invest in the US and Israel and have donated millions to republicans in the past.
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Where's the part suggesting getting off social media altogether, and stocking up on guns, ammo, and cans of beans?
@skeptomatic @SrMono You find that aplenty over on Matrix...
And in other communities. Also you misspelled beer.
After switching your search engine, hop into your European time-machine and go back to February to continue this guide.
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Orion is not a paid browser. Kagi, however, is a paid search engine, and Orion was made by the Kagi team. The browser is completely free and is in all Apple OSs (coming to Linux soon) and gathers absolutely no data. And the browser comes with no search engine chosen by default so it isn’t really an ad for Kagi.
I personally think it’s amazing especially how you can have both Firefox and Chrome extensions on it. Its only issue is it being proprietary.
Orion was really well made. It is still beta, but when it is more stable, I'll give it a second go! 100% recommended.
Is Waterfox the most recommended Firefox alternative nowadays after the recent Firefox controversy?
Also not sure I would call Proton privacy focused. I still use it, but they have been rating out an environment activist to French authorities before.
Both Tuta and Proton have a free tier for their email. Also, I think Infomaniak's kmail might be an even better replacement for the typical email/cloud providers than the aforementioned, for normies at least.
In what way is mastodon privacy focused?
Well, the flyer originated here: https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1jcr8ks/here_is_the_new_and_improved_guide_to_help_you/ but mastodon stands out as it has no commercial driver. There aren't any ad-services profiling you, so that is a big win for your privacy.
There aren’t any ad-services profiling you
There's no way to know that.
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Why does nobody ever remember about the Vivaldi browser?
What makes Vivaldi better than other Chromium-based browsers in terms of privacy and such?
It's also chromium based. But other than that it's european and a pretty cool browser!
Well, certainly not nobody, I hear it mentioned quite often on the internet! Just make sure to keep talking about it, if you want it to get more popular :D
No Threema?
Unfortunately, Threema will never be a real alternative because of the price tag. There are just too many good alternative that are for free. For example, Element is European, privacy-wise good and for free.
Xmpp ?
That is a nice protocol. If you are interested in messenger then translate this page via an extension https://www.kuketz-blog.de/die-grosse-messenger-uebersicht-kompakt-kritisch-direkt/
can anybody explain why people hate on Waterfox? I'm using it for over a year now and it's been great so far!
why people hate on Waterfox?
it used to be owned by an ad company, so I guess some people just don't want to put their trust back in yet
I think it's about none of Firefox forks being remotely capable of evolving on their own. So any large scale push to leave Firefox for any of these forks might only hurt Firefox which would in turn hurt its forks.
My insignificant opinion on the matter is that it's great to have different flavors of Firefox that might be better suited for you, but it doesn't appear to lead to a solution to the underlying issue.
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I would be more interested in why they didn't go with LibreWolf?
i tried librewolf about 2 years ago but it didn't quite work for me since it's high security settings were breaking the sites i visited :O
Breaks almost every site on the settings I've given it, by my design -- at least, until I grant the site some permissions. You don't get to run code on my browser unless I SAY you can!
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