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[-] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 172 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

~~the government just confirmed aliens are real~~ another hack job with government connections is claiming that he was told by government official that alien "biologics" and space craft were recovered by the government without being able to provide evidence or details because it is "classified"

What a nothingburger

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

he didn't even say alien. "alien biologics" while meaningless, was a stronger assertion than he was willing to make. he said "non-human biologics", which could mean anything from aliens to there was some grass there. he just left it vague and then people like OP who want the truth but also know exactly what they want the truth to be filled in the details using the twin powers of guessing and lying.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

And important to note: we’ve sent dogs to die in space

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[-] mind@lemmy.world 82 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The US Government did not say aliens exist. A former military officer said "nonhuman" biological material was in one of the craft they downed. That could mean someone put a monkey or a dog in a test vehicle, it could mean a bird flew into the thing.

Even if he was saying it's aliens, testifying to congress is not the same thing as the government itself claiming aliens exist. They are reporting to the government, not making statements on behalf of the government.

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[-] janNatan@lemmy.ml 76 points 10 months ago

No, they didn't. If they did it would be huge news.

[-] Puppy@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago

I'm a huge UFO nerd but even I realize all this story is full of shit.

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[-] elouboub@kbin.social 71 points 10 months ago

Because they ain't confirmed shit

[-] demlet@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

I mean, setting aside the lack of actual evidence so far, what effect will it have on most of us? Is the world suddenly going to become a utopia because aliens have been here? At best we get some cool technology that governments and the rich will hoard; at worst we get conscripted to go kill them and take their shit, or are forced to defend ourselves from them trying to take our shit. I've never really understood why aliens imply anything other than that. The truth is, if they do have something truly transcendent to teach us, we ain't ready for it. If we want to find the secrets of the universe we need to put our own house in order and do it ourselves. Aliens aren't our space saviors.

[-] peanut_boy@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Why does everything need to have personal gain to matter at all. I get the whole "no actual evidence" part. But if we actually see aliens and you're not impressed, I don't think we can be friends. Don't blame capitalism, you're just lame. Sure, there are real problems, but people throughout history have had it far worse and still managed to care about things outside of their own tiny microcosm. Many people enjoy these things not in spite of but because of their personal struggles, as they can act as an escape for a short time. If you're going to have economic troubles anyway, why spend all your time dwelling in it?

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

I don't think that person is talking about their personal thoughts, but more mankind as a whole.

As we operate now we would not have to tools to add anything meaningful to a galactic conversation.

We could all personally think it's awesome, but as a people we are simply unequipped to deal with the consequences of meeting an extraterrestrial race.

People are sort of great individually, but collectively we're horrific. We'd be trying to kill, enslave, or exploit any new species we came across. It's what we do with new species. Hell it's what we do to each other.

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[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 5 points 10 months ago

I keep hoping they'll imprison us and keep me as their pet. I'd prefer that life.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

You can have that life now 👀

[-] demlet@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago
[-] ihwip@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The fact that they haven't made contact with the entire globe in a way that is undisputable etc is proof that they are mostly apathetic.

This is why they mostly stick to military bases with nukes. Even their offensive technology is apathetic. Disrupting our electronics etc. They clearly don't care.

With that said should we really call them aliens? Chances are they have been here longer than the entire history of the hominid line.

[-] demlet@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Or maybe proof that, you know, they aren't here and never were...

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[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Big difference between some dudes testimony and hard irrifutable evidence. A few officials can say whatever they like. Until you get hard XCOM level evidence in front of a public hearing the government won't confirmed shit.

The real reason ayylmaos will never be confirmed until the hand is forced is that a huge majority of the global population ascribe to a religion absolutely incompatable with the existence of extraterrestrial life. Sentient non-human highly technological extraterrestrial life at that.

The moment it is confirmed there will 100% be mass panics by religious fundamentalist that space is inhabited by demons or whatever rationalization they pick to ensure their beliefs are still unquestioningly correct and the god given truth of 2000 year old scripture is maintained. In some areas like the USA bible belt or the middle east this will be devistating and cause actual long lasting damage to global society at large. Its a bottle of lightning all the space age nations of the world have deemed not worth opening for societal and economic stability. If these people really have the goods to back up their talk, they will be epstiened unless they take the upmost caution.

[-] Nahvi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Meh... I would bet most Christians ascribe to the same sort of philosophy that my pastor did back when I was in high school. He always said, "I don't know if there are aliens out there, but if there are they need Jesus too."

It's a bit silly, but he was also a creationist. If he could be fine with aliens but not evolution, I imagine the same is true for most other religious people.

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[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

"the government" lol. It was like one guy who just said it with 0 evidence.

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago

"The goverment" of what? USA is not the entire world.

[-] dopeshark@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Let's ask those aliens for affordable homes :)

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[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 11 points 10 months ago

Can we please keep all of the alien nonsense off of lemmy? I don't need conspiracy theories on my favorite platform. Even though aliens are the OG conspiracy theories and Mulder made them look real cool.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

At least it's the fun conspiracies instead of the nation destroying ones.

[-] Nahvi@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Can we please keep anything I don't like or agree with it off of lemmy?

That includes: boiled eggs, boiled spinach, and anyone with a number in their user name.

Thank you everyone!

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[-] ox0r@jlai.lu 11 points 10 months ago

Because it is all fucking bullshit

[-] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

All they have confirmed is the Henry Kissinger shit about how they're going to get us to pay for orbital weaponry by beating that drum.

[-] djmarcone@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

The US government has near zero credibility. I dgaf what they say wrt aliens.

It may just be a distraction but could be a psyop by the cia for some convoluted reason.

They do seem to be earnestly playing the alien card right now and aren't letting it up.

That tells me that there will be escalation on this with some end goal in mind. And it will likely be another pain in the ass like their last one.

[-] Jay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

I care! Or at least I'm interested... What happened?

[-] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Someone with government connections is claiming things that he can't back up with evidence. Nobody cares because "the government" didn't confirm shit. Even the guy making the claim said he couldn't talk about it because it's classified.

[-] sparky678348@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Audit the military : find the aliens

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[-] aDuckk@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It was a fun distraction from the hottest consecutive weeks ever recorded though.

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