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[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Can't believe there are idiots that still deny climate change. Here in the MENA (Middle east + North africa, basically arab world) it's been brutal, frequent droughts, dangerous air quality and insane levels of heat in summer (and average days too, but it's only 33 celsius right now so not too bad). 1,300 people died last year in my city alone

But yeah... climate change is a hoax. πŸ™„

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 36 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Can’t believe there are idiots that still deny climate change.

Yep. The signs are all around us, even in Northern Europe. Not so far north that melting glaciers are a thing, but shorter and warmer winters, earlier spring, burnt grass in summer (this has never been a thing in Finland), disruption of long-standing weather patterns...

Most "sensible" deniers nowadays claim it's not human made. For them I always keep this xkcd handy.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Until the Gulf Stream Current collapses. Then it will be nice and cold.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 14 hours ago

For those affected by it. But it's called global climate catastrophe for a reason.

Nothing against you, but I know that some people would use that argument in earnest.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 23 hours ago

Hmmmm source? Clearly it's fake because it doesn't affect me! ^/s^

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've had 33 degree summers in Lithuania and they were absolutely brutal.

[–] Famko@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

And the most common sentiment about climate change right now among KTU civil engineer students is "oh stop shoving this climate bullshit down our throats" and it isn't even exclusive to the fucking students.

Makes me mad listening to it.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I've gotten used to 30+ degree weathers, but i'm especially concerned for the coming summer/next years.

[–] brrt@lemm.ee 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

We had 2 snowfalls this winter here in Austria and summer regularly hits 30+ for multiple weeks. No snow = no melting water reservoir... Yet our people vote for a Partie that still calls it a hoax. We're so fucked.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Uneducated on austrian politics; why are people voting for this party? Dunno who they are, but from your comment it sounds stupid to vote for them.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 21 hours ago

I guess it's similar to the situation in Germany, though a few years further in the development.

Right wing populism, lack of political education, populist media outlets, centre politicians adopting right wing policies in an ill-fated attempt to get their voters back, a population generally dissatisfied with the establishment due to the consequences of neoliberalism, etc.

[–] brrt@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago

It is like cyberegg speculated. Right wing anti immigration populism party.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/algeria-experiences-highest-levels-heat-stress-2024-global-temperatures-breach-15c

Temperatures around 50Β°C with "feels temperature" almost at 60Β°C. I know some people use saunas at 60Β°C

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

Jesus christ what the fuck. I live in a gulf state so i'm not as affected as much as algerians for example, but if this goes on the death toll is going to absolutely sky rocket.

Makes even less sense now that people think it's fake...

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No problemo - let's us just ban reports on this while increasing fossil fuels consumption and eating more meat. There, problem solved.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago

eating more meat

People in arid regions are practically roasting alive in the heat??? Yum more meat for us πŸ˜‹

[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

G'day mate, yeah us hot regions are getting screwed faster and harder by climate change. One saving grace is we've been building places to handle the heat for longer.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Hope you aussies are doing well in this. ACs are genuinely a necessity here, i was incredibly surprised that they didn't air condition every single building in european countries.

What's even funnier is that my country's infamous for shit climate handling + huge use of fossil oils, we're causing our on collapse xd. Hopefully we'll become net-zero and actually adhere to the pledges. Hopefully you all will too :D

[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 4 points 18 hours ago

Australia is a big country with trucks delivering stuff everywhere which makes for a huge part of out climate contribution. Per capita we're in the doghouse for emissions standards, fortunately there's not a lot of us.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

MENA

Middle East and North Africa

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Thanks, edited.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

Perhaps the denial is more widespread there because in the wealthy oil dictatorships there is no other industry, at all. The saudi dictator is trying to diversify but let's not kid ourselves, the economy is still 95% oil

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

Time to do more nothing!

  • 90mpercentvof Europe's politicians
[–] moodymellodrone@sopuli.xyz 24 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

And a lot of homes and apartments in Europe have no AC

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

What's really crazy is that Europe will soon need most homes to have central heating. With the AMOC collapse hurrying along, Europe will actually fall off in temp soon and be more like Canada. Meanwhile the eastern USA will be flooded and very hot because the current stopped pulling hot water away from the coast.

Give that like 20 years or so. Maybe less.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This is bad for the people in those homes, but good for global tempurate.

[–] PixelTron@lemm.ee 9 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Unfortunately not when a lot of those homes will end up getting AC to survive the ever increasing heat. Unless of course they are mostly powered by green energy, so maybe there is some hope!

[–] albert180@piefed.social 8 points 19 hours ago

When it's hot during the day there is usually sun too. Solar makes this problem less worse

[–] Lazhward@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

We should be converting people to heat pumps, that way we can transition away from gas for heating and have both heating and cooling from green energy. This will reduce the carbon footprint overall and give people AC.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 points 18 hours ago

This is happening in Switzerland. So many people want to switch to heat pumps there's a years long queue for the craftsmen's time and the machines themselves

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 19 hours ago

They're pushed pretty hard I think but still not enough.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

Green energy also requires resources though, i meant it is good for the planet they don't have any of course it won't be good once they get one.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I find it funny that this kind of argument just appears when people are talking about cooling but never when people are talking about heating.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

Heating and cooling buildings both cost immense amounts of energy, but in places where spaces are heated the global rise in temperature generally means less energy is needed for heating because it is less cold. I don't have the experience that discussions about this favour the ones living in colder climates over the ones living in warmer climates, but if you feel this is personal let me say that you shouldn't sit in scorching heat just because the world fucked up and shouldn't feel bad about using an airconditioning. Spending a long time in high temperatures actually kills people. I was not in any way saying the people who right now don't have airconditioning should not get one, just that it is better for the global temperature a lot of people don't have one.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 10 points 20 hours ago

I saw this series last year called Extrapolations, and even though the story itself wasn't necessarily that good I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to see how the future might look. I've read a lot about rising temperatures and extreme weather but this show really helped me visualise how those things might impact me and the generations after me. It's not a disaster movie like The Day After Tomorrow or 2012 where everything goes wrong all of a sudden, but rather a set of stories where things gradually get worse. Hopefully they will never get as bad as in the last few episodes but I believe the whole thing is backed by science and shows things that will actually happen if we do not do enough about climate change.

Europe, so hot right now.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

Just gotta live long enough to inherit that newly beachfront property in Lichtenstein, then. 🀞🏼