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I hate peaking under the stalls or knocking doors to figure it out. The answer is so simple.

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[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 162 points 11 months ago (2 children)

TIL occupied indicators are not standard in the rest of the world.

[–] fritata_fritato@lemmy.nz 16 points 11 months ago

Exactly! I genuinely learnt something from this post. What a strange world we live in, something so basic for over a century is not used by the hegemon

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago

I think it's uniquely US problem, along with weird gaps so you can always look at the person shiting

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 124 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In the US just peer through the crack between the door and the wall. Ensure solid eye contact with the current occupant. Determine how much time they've left. Adjust plan accordingly.

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I always reach under the stalls to grab their ankles. Scaring the shit out of them speeds things up

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 points 10 months ago

The most literal case of scaring the shit out of someone.

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[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

You shouldn't do that.

The doors are deliberately designed to have a large gap on the bottom, so you can poke your head through. This is the correct way of doing it.

[–] Prometheus@lemmy.world 79 points 11 months ago (3 children)

We have these for years in Europe

[–] onevia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where is the 6 in gap between the door and stall??

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

I thought this is everywhere

And I've never been to Europe

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I'm middle aged and I don't recall a time in my life when vacant/occupied indicators weren't on all public toilets.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They do. Or at least, here in Europe they do. Seems rather absurd there'd be a place where they don't.

[–] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Bear in mind the US also has massive gaps in their public toilet doors. They do seem to be struggling. Then again I'm from the UK, so... Yeah. Send help.

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[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They do in the UK - where are you?

[–] bigbluealien@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago

Yeah I don't think I've ever seen one without, but being red-green colour blind I wish most didn't only use those colours

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 months ago

Because in the US you can usually see the person shitting through the ridiculous gaps in the stalls.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[–] mangosloth@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah here in Japan most places have a red and blue indicator that moves with the lock. Bidets and toilet seat sanitizers are also pretty standard in any decently modernized areas. We kinda win when it comes to bathrooms.

[–] Waker@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Just got back from Japan. I'm always surprised when I'm in the middle of nowhere and the public restrooms have heated sitting, deodorizer, bidet, background sounds. Like... Wtf? That's better than my toilet at home. And I'm not even from the US 🙃

[–] Carter@feddit.uk 31 points 11 months ago
[–] Nihilore@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Australia checking in, those are definitely a thing here

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[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cost. The gaps in most NA stalls are so big you will know whether it's occupied anyway just by walking past.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Was a bit of a shock when I went to Japan and all the stalls are just small rooms within the restroom. It was nice. Bidet game is on point too.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

The way it should be 😔

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 points 10 months ago

Americans, isn't it?

Next they realise that toilets shouldn't have massive gaps around and under the doors.

Y'all are living with prison toilets.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've never seen one without.

[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In 'merica, we love to grab the door and shake it or look through the 2 inch gap to check if it's occupied 🇺🇲

[–] cori@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget to also knock loudly and yell "IS ANYBODY IN THERE???"

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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Uh, like if the door’s closed it’s more than likely occupied.

[–] oohgodyeah@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Useless if the door swings shut by default, likely from poor horizontal alignment.

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[–] danque@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

You guys don't have an indicator near the door handle?? It's super common in the Netherlands. Almost every toilet has a small indicator, except for maybe some old doors the owners didn't replace, but all else always shows if it's occupied or not (not that people won't try anyway even if red for occupied).

[–] Suru@mander.xyz 18 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I'm genuinely curious to know where in the world you live. I would be horrified if someone was peeking under the stalls or bothering people by knocking on the doors.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago

Land of freedom.

Freedom to poop with a giant gap between the door.

Freedom to piss in a urinal with no divider.

Freedom to wipe with toilet paper so thin, so dainty, that it's practically see through.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When I frequented small cafés before the epidemic lockdown, it was typical in San Francisco to get frequent impatient door-knockers.

Part of the problem is the lack of publicly available restroom facilities. Shopping malls often might have two restroom pairs, usually at the food court and by the movie theater, and then one each at thr major department stores, typically hidden by the changing rooms.

I cannot say how this compares to other towns or other nations, but designing public lots in The Sims 2, I quickly learned to make sure there were facilities a short walk from everywhere. (Also skip the sinks and install showers, since sims dress and undress with a quick spin)

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[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I just leave the door open, that way everyone knows I'm in there. I even wave at the kids.

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[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

All the ones I've seen stand open when they're not locked.

[–] Wazzamatter@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

TIl us North Americans apparently are the only ones with this problem...

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do your toilets not have these things:

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[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 13 points 10 months ago
[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some do. Most are too cheap to bother.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

In my experience most do? Maybe the US is different from everywhere else?

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 11 months ago

Probably.

Most stalls are bolted together pieces of cheap metal with the most basic latch you can imagine. If an indicator adds 10 cents to the cost it’s not going to happen.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The US is cheap. We even famously have large gaps between the door/stall panels. I can only imagine it is to accommodate temperature/humidity changes so that they don't jam.

Nicer places sometimes have actual deadbolt locks connected to a vacant/occupied indicator on the exterior. But it is rare. Usually it's just a gapped stall with a sliding lock that will often not even line up correctly without wiggling the door.

In some instances I have had to use my gym key fob in place of the missing sliding mechanism to secure the door.

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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Basically they skimp like mad on this basic infrastructure because they don't care. Whatever companies make the standard shitty metal toilet cubicles in the US have a lot to answer for.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

How else am I supposed to make new friends?

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