Nah it was Ethiopians who realized it. Arabs agreed. Then Europeans lost their damn minds at the concept of a non alcoholic social beverage, much less one with an energizing effect
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To be fair: caffeine is toxic to insects. It's not that we enjoy the intended effect like in hot chilies. It's that the effect differs between insects and mammals
Explanation: While use of coffee beans originated in Ethiopia, it was the Arabs of the 15th century AD who discovered that it could be brewed into a drink. While I'm not a coffee drinker myself, both an appreciation for the historical importance of the drink and the fantastic smell makes me thankful for the discovery as well! Truly the world's first step into modernity π
What was the use before the Arabs?
Chewing the beans, I believe.
just like coca leaves in South America, coca tea came later, and eventually coca cola
Coca Cola, yes.
Mmmm coke
What's your source. Ethiopians will tell you up and down that they discovered and brewed coffee first
This article says that both Ethiopia and Yemen claim to have discovered coffee. The Ethiopian claim is that it was discovered and brewed in Ethiopia and the Yemeni claim is that Ethiopians discovered but Yemenis brewed it. I like the Ethiopian story better but it either have no conclusive evidence
I tend to believe the Yemeni version because of the earlier evidence, but you're correct that neither origin is definite, and history probably will never be fully certain on the matter.
Man I hate coffee. Tastes like ash in water.
I have high sensitivity towards some tastes. Beer is also not palatable for me.
It sounds like you have had a bunch of dark roasts. Maybe try a light roast and see if it tastes the same?
It doesn't taste the same, nor smell the same, but it all tastes bad. For me, it's like asking me to try different brands of cigarettes. I'll still cough no matter the subtle or big differences.
I hear what your saying. But I enjoy coffee. But if you have tried different types it might not be for you.
It definitely isn't for me β I know that from my experiences with it. I'm 38 years old, I'm fairly certain after this long. π
Try to drink small sips. Is there wine that you like?
Small sips is all I've ever tasted.
Coffee drinkers just can't stop trying to coax me into drinking coffee. Will you all just stop giving me tips? It's dead, guys. π
Wine is okay, but I still have to drink enough that the alcohol taste wears off after a while. Then it tastes better.
It's fine, don't worry. Honestly coffee is addicting and you'll feel off until you've had one in the morning.
I feel kinda the same as you about wine. Except for some nice white wines, some are nice to drink.
Thanks. Yeah, I see all these coffee drinkers around me and I consider myself lucky thinking about it, almost once a week.
I can imagine wine aficionados would be even more insufferable, trying to get us into fine wine. There's the money aspect in that whole scene. π
Not sure why you're being down voted.
Personally I love the taste of coffee, but I can see how high "tastitivity" could make it unpleasant.
Not sure why you're being down voted.
People take it personally maybe ππ
But yeah, coffee definitely feels like a love it or hate it kind of beverage.
A lot of people think coffee has one taste. It does not. It isn't all that burnt to hell flavor like you get from Starbucks or most other places. A nice light roast will be more fruity. If you get the chance, I'd recommend trying a naturally processed coffee, which is where the seed is left in the fruit while it ferments and is then removed, so it gets a lot more of the fruit flavors.
I'd also say the same thing for beer, but even more so. Beer is like soup. There's so many different ways to make it with different ingredients. Budweiser, or similar, is what most people try, and it's shit. There's a massive world of beer though, with things like sours that can taste like wine, fruit juice, or candy, to stouts that can have coffee or chocolate notes, and so much more.
You have to have an open mind and explore. There may not be coffee you like (the number of flavors is broad, but still more limited), but I can promise you I could find beer you like. My mom used to say she hates beer, but I've found a good number that she enjoys because there isn't just one flavor.
I live in Australia. We are widely known for our quality and variety of both coffee and beer, and I can tell you I'm in the same boat as the other guy. It doesn't matter what flavours you try to use to mask it, the bad taste of the beer or coffee still comes through. I imagine it's like those people that say cilantro tastes like soap, and even a small amount in a dish makes the entire thing taste like soap, even if they didn't know it was in there.
Thanks, people have been offering me fine beer and coffee my whole life since puberty hit. Everything tastes like shit to me, I'm sorry. Some people just don't like coffee or beer. π And I'm perfectly happy not to need to drink them both. There's plenty of other things to enjoy. Like tea. Fruit juices. A gin and tonic perhaps. A mild non-alcoholic ginger beer.
But coffee can go sit in a corner.
Yeah, that's totally fine if you've actually been open to it and given it a shot! That's great. I just hate when people drink shitty beer (or anything else) and decide they don't like it. You aren't supposed to like those. They're just cheap.
(You can also not want to consume something and not have an opinion on if you like it or not, for those who just want to avoid them for whatever reason you have. That's perfectly good too.)
You seem like a reasonable person. Thanks for backing me (and others) up like that. π€
You can't just say all that and not name any brands. Sure do I start?
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Same here. When people ask me why I don't drink coffee I have to explain to them that to me it tastes like a bars ashtray smells at the end of a busy night. The funny thing is everyone in my family loves coffee, I'm just the black sheep that drinks tea.
"Oh you just haven't had good coffee" nope sorry bud, I've had high end coffee, low end coffee, flavored coffee, everything. I even had a supervisor who basically lived on coffee and did everything he could to find a blend that was palatable to me, still nothing.
Exactly. Many who like coffee just can't imagine how someone can just not even learn to love it, no matter how hard they try.
Yep, I walking to my current department head when this came up, he literally stop talking and just stared at me.
Funny, after water, beer and coffee are my two most consumed drinks. I like whisky too but havenβt been drinking as much lately. It kind of comes and goes.
Unfortunately, water is third on that list for me.
Coffee is the same for me. Beer used to be the same, but I got used to it - still doesn't taste great, but cold it's acceptable. But not coffee, I never got used to it.
That's the thing, I have no interest in subjecting myself to things until they are acceptable lol. I like eating and drinking things that are inherently good to begin with. Things that are good for me, and to me. π
Very understandable! I've also stopped drinking beer, because it never started tasting good.
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you're welcome. π
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