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Social media influencers are fuelling a rise in misogyny and sexism in the UK's classrooms, according to teachers.

More than 5,800 teachers were polled... and nearly three in five (59%) said they believe social media use has contributed to a deterioration in pupils' behaviour.

One teacher said she'd had 10-year-old boys "refuse to speak to [her]...because [she is] a woman". Another said "the Andrew Tate phenomena had a huge impact on how [pupils] interacted with females and males they did not see as 'masculine'".

"There is an urgent need for concerted action... to safeguard all children and young people from the dangerous influence of far-right populists and extremists."

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[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 hour ago

Some of you need more empathy. These are children whose insecurities are being exploited for profit. Be mad at their parents, and be mad at figures like Andrew Tate. But these are children and they deserve more grace than that.

[–] peekingduck@lemm.ee 13 points 2 hours ago

The funny thing is that people like Tate would be the first to be eaten when the world ends lol

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago

Dude, I never cared who my teachers were, so long as they weren’t jerks. Even then, I got over it.

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 26 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Fine, just fail them. This is a problem for the parents to address. And if the parents refuse, then they can enjoy having a child who lives off of benefits and aspires to be an "influencer". Lol.

[–] pablodaniel@lemmings.world 4 points 2 hours ago

You don't actually need to talk to the teacher to pass a class in most cases.

I don't think the kids doing this are doing well in school anyways, but it is possible to never say a word and still get an A from your schoolwork.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Research from anti-fascism organisation Hope Not Hate, which polled about 2,000 people across the UK aged 16 to 24, discovered that 41% of young men support Tate versus just 12% of young women.

That is quite a worrying statistic: 41% of young men endorsing a human-trafficking misogynist rapist.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

See, the thing is, these are all allegations. It won't be proven until his trial in 2027 whether he did any of those things or not (well okay, apart from the misogyny thing, he's admitting that one loud and proud). Despite the fact, he's had money and assets ceased and was sent to jail, which goes against some pretty fundamental values that many people are taught growing up (e.g. Innocent until proven guilty). So I can definitely see how many non-misogynists or even feminists would be on Tate's side even if they disagree with his messaging.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 2 points 20 minutes ago

What is interesting is how non-vocal many of these "concerned citizens" are when the criminal justice system does the same thing to normal people. It is why I have a difficult time believing the concern is really about justice and due process in many cases.

[–] Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

It's even more insane that young women (!!) support a misogyny douchbag. What's wrong with them?

[–] peekingduck@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

The kind of people that think Tate is a hero should be snuffed out lol

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

can you blame boys for aspiring to this

[–] LeadLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

King of all the chinless chuds.

[–] Boppel@feddit.org 10 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

So? You get a F, you get a F, you get a F...

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Why do you think handing out massive numbers of "F"s will change these kids' behavior?

That might work when there's only a few kids screwing up and there's social pressure on them to change for the better, but right now the social pressure is going in the opposite direction because of people like Tate. The boys will just say they're getting "F"s because teachers/women/"liberal educators"/whoever just hate boys and masculinity, and people like Tate will validate their views there.

I get that the idea of flunking these kids to "teach them a lesson and show them how wrong they are" might provide a nice, satisfying dopamine hit to you in the moment, but all it's going to do is make the problem worse.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 hours ago

"That fucking stupid bitch woman teacher gave me an F because (insert misogynistic mental gymnastics to make it her fault for being female here)"

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

We're in for a very, very stupid future.

[–] Really_long_toes@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

Idiocracy isn't just a great movie that holds up, it's a accurate depiction of the future and it has electrolytes, it's what plants crave

[–] LeadLemming@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

looks around

… the future is now.

[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 8 points 6 hours ago

I can really recommend the mini series Adolesence on Netflix (or wherever) to get a great, dramatized example of how this effect looks like.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (8 children)

Sometimes I wonder if the Internet should only be allowed for people 21 or 25 years or older.

21 is the new 16... 25 is the new 21.

But... At the same time older adults are extremely dumb too.

But giving a young person access to the Internet is like letting them walk NYC alone at night during the 70s.

Ever since Facebook and 9/11 the Internet has been kind of awful.

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Dude, we're all stupid. We are all effected by the Internet and propaganda algorithms. We are not superior, most of us just don't realise we're programmed. Exactly the same as Gen Alpha, Zoomers, Gen X and Boomers. We're all profiled and we all see how everyone else is a victim of indoctrination. That's how this works, social engineering innit?

[–] pablodaniel@lemmings.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Facebook was tame.

It's twitter, reddit, instagram, and tiktok that really set people off. They just weren't prepared to handle the forces at play when you let people communicate with no accountability.

Glad I grew up realizing that most people on the internet are just losers who can't function in the real world so they use the digital space as a crutch.

Really makes it easier to deal with the hysteria, apathy, narcissism, insecurity, and cognitive dissonance I see from many users.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I don't mean that about Facebook. Facebook transitioned the Internet from being a cyber ecosystem of absolute freedom and anonymity where people existed freely with expression to a an extension of non-cyber life, I feel like people understood the internet was place where people were free, because it wasn't real. The internet was not real life and that was almost universally agreed upon. After facebook the Internet became a place connected to real life identity and it became a base standard. ...I think this helped create the real-world enshitification of our physical social communities. The transition to the idea that the Internet is real life is something that wasn't talked about or agreed about.

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