Is this not a privacy win though? Isn't this what people want?
this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2023
457 points (100.0% liked)
Technology
37800 readers
306 users here now
A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.
Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
Subcommunities on Beehaw:
This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
lol right? I call this an absolute win! Less garbage on the homepage and more privacy! Should be a search bar and that's about it
I agree, it should look like the Google home page. I’m actually surprised google has never gone the way of Yahoo, MSN, etc and crammed their home page full of shit “news” articles & videos.
That's what makes them different and they know it, the simple search page. They learned a long time ago to fill the results page with shit instead
load more comments
(1 replies)
@peter I'm not actually sure if this is a privacy win at all. I use Google for years with disabled history (and other stuff disabled) and this new change does not make any difference to my privacy. At the moment, still, the home feed recommendations is mostly about videos from my subscriptions, past videos and the newest one. All it does is take away that view, which does not improve privacy. What actually improves privacy is to disable the history, which you could do since years.
Edit: I totally forgot the link I wanted to provide: https://myaccount.google.com/u/0/yourdata/youtube
load more comments
(2 replies)
Yes. This is the functionality I want if Watch History is off. Chalk one up.
*chalk one very, very minor win up
load more comments
(4 replies)
For my use case this is a positive change (for once). The less data I need to waste loading a Mr. Beast face thumbnail I don't need the better.
I wonder if it is intended to cause NewPipe to crash, lol. Or to instead fill the page with ads later.
This is great!
Could you also not show a link to shorts? I could also do without those.
Yep, those shorts are dumb, and YT is passive aggresive when closing the tray: "ok, we'll repoen the tray in 30 days". It's like "I don't care you don't want those, I'll feed them to you no matter what..." Piss off YT!
load more comments
(1 replies)
I don't understand. Is this supposed to be an incentive to turn on watch history?
Right? At last I have a way to let my kid use YouTube for school and stuff without the algorithm trying to seize control of her brain.
load more comments
(3 replies)
Google realizing they had gone too far and actually improving UX to avoid losing visitors
Man, I can get a cleaner homepage at the cost of not showing me my history? Seems worth it to me.
What a fantastic QOL improvement!
If you've seen the default homepage then you'll appreciate this.
This is exactly what I would prefer even without being logged in!
Oh no, how am I going to be recommended Tucker Carlson because I watched something about space? Legit happened during a private browsing session where I watched some rocket videos. Left it on accidentally with auto play and it ended up going down a Tucker Carlson rabbit hole most likely because Elom Munsk and Spacex videos were part of the auto play history.
TIL you can turn off Youtube history. Done!
Good.
In some circles on the internet I really feel like the only person who actually likes YouTube.
I love the content/creators, but hate the company that runs it. Sadly, unless you are willing to give up the channels you love there isn't much in the way of alternatives.
It's funny because I agree with you - out of everything that collects my data I get the most out of YouTube, it often recommends things I like quite a bit and it's the primary way I discover new music
I take steps to prevent algorithms from dictating what I listen to and watch. Algorithmically-decided culture feels utterly wrong to me.
load more comments
(5 replies)
Youtube is very hard on the people that provide content and don't have a corporation backing their play.
load more comments
(1 replies)
I used to like YouTube, but between the constant increase in number and length of ads, as well as how they keep stifling creators by restricting the language they can use and the topics they can cover, it seems like anything good there exists in spite of the company rather than because of it.
This is not good like the people in the comments think. It'll just get more people to create accounts to give Google more data. You could easily just not click on thumbnails before. You could also just block it all with uBlock Origin to have an empty front page.
load more comments
(6 replies)
My youtube recommendations are pretty good but if I watch a single video I'm not interested in it's fucked for a week.
You can delete stuff from your watch history. It usually fixes the recommendations for me.
Any video I watch I have to consider if I want to be pushed more of it and delete from history whenever I look at something I don't want more of.
It's an annoying tightrope, I have considered no history but then I wouldn't get more of what I do want. This new change is to make turning off watch history worse, to no longer suggest any videos if you want privacy.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Rare google W
IKR? Like, this is a feature, not a downgrade. TBH, my recommendations are pretty good when I see the sidebar, but I'd be 100% okay to never see them since I generally only go to youtube for specific content, not for entertainment.
I actually find the watch history useful as it has search in it. It's like enabling your browser history On. "What was that video/webpage? I recall the keyword but forgot the name of the video (or webpage)."
Also, I hardly visit the site except for links shared so the home page recommendations don't bother me and aren't of much use to me.
load more comments
(3 replies)
It seems people are now discovering that they can turn off watch history and think this is a new feature.
load more comments
(1 replies)
I have watch history on and the recommendations are garbage. Maybe I should disable it.
That's a marked improvement. I don't want their stupid algorithm feeding me bullshit.
I don't know how I feel about this personally. On the one hand, I feel like this is a privacy win for those who want it: no watch history means no algorithmic recommendations and (presumably) less data collection for those users. On the other hand, I personally really enjoy the recommendations that YouTube makes for me. Maybe it is the wide variety of content that I watch, but I'm honestly very pleased with the recommendations that YouTube provides. That being said, I feel like the opt-in to algorithmic recommendations is a good thing overall, however I am personally going to leave my watch history enabled.
I don't have my watch history turned on but everything on my home page is related in some way to my subscriptions and it's annoying as fuck because it makes it difficult to discover new areas of interest. It's even worse if I log out because all I get is twenty something year olds shouting at the camera like 12 year olds in full HDR+++++. YouTube should be looking at broadening peoples interests rather than narrowing them. When they jam your homepage with similar crap to the crap you've been watching for god knows how long the whole experience starts to become stale.
load more comments
(1 replies)
From what i've been able to tell this is one of the few good changes they've done. You won't get crap you don't care about if you're not logged in and haven't watched anything.
I was using unhook to do the same thing! Thanks, Google!
Good.
I like how Google thinks it’s going to encourage people turning it on when it’s probably going to do the opposite.
load more comments
(3 replies)
Cool, now make the search useful again by letting me do -thingIdon'twant or "thing I do want" in quotes. Why did that functionality even go away? Search is such garbage now that tries to get you to click on shit you didn't search for.
That, and remove the 3 vids of what I searched for, then 3 vids of whatever the fuck, then shorts thay may or may not be related.
load more comments
(2 replies)
load more comments
(1 replies)
Would be an excellent change if they replaced it with a chronological timeline, but we all know they won't do that even though their backend already generates RSS feeds and it would barely take any effort to integrate with the frontend
🤖 I'm a bot that provides automatic summaries for articles:
Click here to see the summary
The change is all part of a “new viewer experience” Google announced on Tuesday.
That means you’ll only see the search bar on the homepage, along with the Shorts, Subscriptions, and Library buttons.
This could come as a welcome change for people who hate sifting through increasingly extreme thumbnails to find the play button, but it could also be a way to annoy users into turning the history back on.
Google says it’s going to roll out this feature “over the next few months,” but several users across the web are already seeing the change.
In place of YouTube’s recommended videos is a notice that reads, “Your watch history is off.
“We are launching this new experience to make it more clear which YouTube features rely on watch history to provide video recommendations and make it more streamlined for those of you who prefer to search rather than browse recommendations,” Google writes.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Nothing of value was lost. With my history on all it shows me is fucking right wing hate and shit I've already watched.
load more comments
(1 replies)
view more: next ›