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submitted 10 months ago by Chetzemoka@kbin.social to c/news@lemmy.world

Voters in Ohio went to the polls to decide whether to approve a measure known as Issue 1​ that would raise the bar for constitutional amendments on the ballot. In the ultimate irony, the vote against changing the amendment process exceeded the 60% supermajority that the special election was seeking to require in the first place.

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[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 161 points 10 months ago

One part of the proposal that wasn't getting as much attention is that it upped the requirement for ballot measures from having to get signatures in 44 districts (half of them) to needing signatures in all 88. That was to try and suppress grass roots efforts from even getting on the ballot. Such an undemocratic bunch of chucklefucks.

[-] cloaker@kbin.social 50 points 10 months ago

Holy shit. That would have meant almost no grassroots ballot measures would get off the ground. People would be forced to hire groups all across the state to drive and get signatures from random rural fuck off counties.

[-] buttsbuttsbutts@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 10 months ago

It also removed the signature curing period, meaning that there is no second chance to get more signatures or any of the originals get thrown out. For example, there is a recreational marijuana initiative that people are trying to get on the ballot in November. When they turned in signatures, it was found that they were, iirc, 639 signatures short. Under the current rules (which will remain) they had 10 days to come up with what they needed. Last I saw, they had gotten over 6,000, so that's cool.

[-] emanon458@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Such an undemocratic bunch of chucklefucks.

I believe the term is ratfuckers.

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[-] Dark_Arc@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is what angered me the most about this issue. I'm happy my fellow Ohioans were able to see this for the power grab that it was.

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[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 155 points 10 months ago

If I read this correctly, a supermajority of voters decided that a supermajority should not be required to amend the constitution.

Sounds like a win to me.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 97 points 10 months ago

Yeah it’s obviously about trying to stop us from legalizing abortion. Also we ain’t standing for anti democratic bs

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 38 points 10 months ago

Or any other policy that isn't supported by the political duopoly. Stuff like higher minimum wages, expanding Medicare and allowing felons to vote got passed in otherwise Republican states this way, which is why they wanted to require a supermajority.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This got tied to abortion because "wow isn't that convenient timing" but was so much bigger. Republicans are watching other midwest states push through progressive policies using boots on the ground signature collection and it scares the shit out of them.

[-] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 31 points 10 months ago

Such a delicious win

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 94 points 10 months ago

I don't normally say this, but good job Ohio.

[-] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 76 points 10 months ago

Always remember that Ohio has been gerrymandered to shit. Republicans got so mad that the big-C cities voted Obama in twice that they decided to do everything they could to erode the rights and power of those city voters.

But you can't dilute the cities in a statewide vote. Look at the voting map on this issue: all major cities and college towns voted against

[-] rustyj@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

District 1 is a fucking joke, I hate living in it. How is downtown Cincinnati connected to Warren county in any way? The seat used to be competitive, but It hasn't swung democrat since the change in 2011.

[-] MethodicalSpark@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

As a fellow OH-1 resident, you are aware we voted in Greg Landsman (D) as our representative this past election cycle, right? It was good to see Chabot go.

Prior to this, I was equally annoyed about our lack of representation and am still peeved about the state of Ohio districts in general.

[-] buttsbuttsbutts@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 10 months ago

Iirc, in the last (illegal) redistricting, the Rs kinda gave Cincinnati our representative back, but created at least one other district that would go hard R.

It is really nice to have Landsman in there, though. He actually fights to get us funding for things, as opposed to Chabot's preferred stance of steering funding literally anywhere else.

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[-] buttsbuttsbutts@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 10 months ago

You have to remember that Trump easily won Ohio in 2020. This issue pulled in people from across party lines.

[-] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
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[-] OttoVonBizmarkie@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago

I read somewhere that Republicans spent $20 million to pass this thing, and it's going to fail miserably. Just icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned! That $20 million could've went to paying Trump's lawyers!

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago

Don't be ridiculous, Trump doesn't pay his lawyers lol

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

Well, they get so much media exposure from representing him, that should be payment enough...

[-] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 11 points 10 months ago

Don't forget, they also get legal exposure!

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[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Not surprising, but I’m pretty sure that it cost the state somewhere around $20m just to have this bull crap special election in the first place. Party of fiscal responsibility. Hah!

[-] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Fascist asshole Richard Uihlein spent $4 million of his own money on this amendment, and he doesn’t even have any connections to Ohio.

[-] OttoVonBizmarkie@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm sure if he dropped $4 million, it's probably a drop in the bucket for him, but that shit has still gotta sting!

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[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

New York Times says over $30 million

[-] OttoVonBizmarkie@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Even better! $30 million = a 10+ point loss! Keep shoveling the money into the fire Republican donors!

[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s at 58% reporting. I’m not relaxing until it’s at 80%+.

I voted three weeks ago, but this whole time I’ve been wondering if I can stay in this state if this managed to pass. My hope is that the No vote comes to 60%; the irony would be delicious.

Edit: Okay, it’s 91% reporting at 56.6% No. I feel good about this one. Good work folks!

[-] 0110010001100010@kbin.social 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's at 70% reporting now. The AP called it saying it was impossible to switch to a yes given the districts reporting. The "no" still has a healthy lead at 57%. Pretty sure Ohio kicked the GOP right in the proverbial balls. Also, (at the moment) 2.3 MILLION voters turned out for an August special election with this being the only issue?!

EDIT: Just hit 80% reporting and still at a 57% no. Fuck yeah fellow ohioans!

EDIT 2: Just crossed 90% reporting and still at a 57% no. Democracy wins!

[-] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 8 points 10 months ago

@0110010001100010 @Chetzemoka @kaitco

I don't have a horse in this race but I wanna cheer anyway. \O/

[-] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you're American, you definitely do. Republicans have tried this same strategy before and will try again. Like notorious conservative apologist, David Frum, said, "If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy."

Celebrate this win with us

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

Yet another instance of the GOP getting their asses handed when abortion rights are on the ballot.

Dems need to lean into this in the general.

[-] los_chill@programming.dev 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is the roadmap for swing states. Especially rust-belt or blue-collar states. Abortion, personal freedom and autonomy. These elections are better than polls. This is how you win, dems. Branch off of it, but for goodness' sake hammer it home.

Edit: spelling

[-] 0110010001100010@kbin.social 29 points 10 months ago

Yay! Proud to say I was a part of this as were my wife and daughter! We all voted early on Saturday. Huge kudos to the MASSIVE turnout to shoot this down, sometimes you can be alright fellow ohioans.

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[-] snownyte@kbin.social 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If this is an indication of anything, how does the GOP feel about their chances going into next year knowing that they're the party that gutted abortion rights? Yeah you're not winning presidency and you can kiss those mid-terms goodbye too, assholes.

The only way these assholes are gonna win anything, is if they abuse their power within Congress and the Supreme Court.

[-] Spacemanspliff@midwest.social 18 points 10 months ago

Oh don't worry, if they see any chance to abuse their power and potentially get away with it, they won't even dream about giving it a second thought.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 17 points 10 months ago

Perhaps I've been too harsh on Ohio...

[-] Nevermore9197@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

The people of Ohio are generally very centrist to left leaning. We however have been so (illegally) gerrymandered that it certainly doesn't appear that way. Rural Ohio is Conservative just like everywhere else in this country.

When decisions are made democratically, as this was, we usually make the correct decision. That's why the right tried to take this away from us.

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[-] geogle@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Eh oh, way to go Ohio

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago

Smart move Ohio voters!

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

"Overwhelmingly", yet if issue 1 was in place and people were voting to get rid of it, they wouldn't have reached it's threshold. Shows how undemocratic it would have been.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Republicans purposely made this seemingly decent legislation complete shit. It makes sense to have a higher threshold for constitutional amendments. But 60% makes it nearly impossible. And this did not require its own 60% bar to pass. And it required getting signatures from all districts instead of just half which would mean only larger organizations could do it. All of it was bullshit. They went for a very thinly veiled power grab and the people told them to fuck off. Well done Ohio.

[-] LazlowsBAWSAQ@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
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