These veterans should do something enthusiastic about this.
this post was submitted on 02 May 2025
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Won't someone think of the poor innocent people whose only crime is murdering foreign civilians for oil and corporate interests?
Remember, you took an oath to serve the Constitution first. Time to dust off those uniforms and service rifles one last time
You know they don't let us take our guns home, right?
Yes but we also know veterans tend to keep personal firearms too.
Service weapons. My grandad brought some abomination home from the Khyber pass. Granted I didn't pry too much, cause I did that one time (unrelated story of his) and he shut the fuck down. Like went silent for what seemed like twenty minutes and just left the house. I tried asking my dad and he said he didn't know much about my grandad's time there either as he was born within days of my grandad's deployment.
2A for all
Some countries do. Op may not be from the u. S.
He may be, but this is a very US centered post.
Oh for sure. Just giving a bit of info
The US army will give soldiers a stipend to purchase their own rifles for use in battle, and those are the property of the soldier. I mean you can use a general issue rifle which you don't get to keep, but everyonei knew opted for the stipend so they could build their own custom rifle and keep it.
Also nearly every police officer opts to use a stipend to purchase their own service firearm which is their personal property. You can use one issued by the PD, but again I don't know of anyone that opted for that route.
Because the US Army is planning to deliver parts and ammo for 70 different custom rifles to all its bases and outposts.
I don't know any soldiers who have told me that. Not saying you're wrong, just saying that's new info to me.
US Army does no such thing.
The logistics challenges would be incredible.
Know what? Fuck em. Don't leave. They want the bills paid, then they can pay the fucking bills they told those veterans they would.
I struggle to give a single fuck about this predicament that Veterans by and large brought upon themselves.
We're split on Trump, like much of America.
61% to 31%, veterans are not as split as you think.
But either way, veterans get to suffer along with the rest of us with their votes, progressive or not.
No.
Not all of them voted for Trump, and even if they did, they're clearly not mentally well and need to be helped.
Whenever anyone disavows Trump and Republicans, we need to embrace them so they stop working against us making things harder.
Plus, turned Republicans are helpful in turning others like themselves over even if just by sheer example.
We must build community, not tear it apart.
Oh please, spare me the kumbya bullshit with Republicans and veterans.
- 2016, 61% voted for trump and the Neo-Nazis.
- 2020, 57%, voted for trump and the Neo-Nazis.
- 2024, 61% voted for trump and the Neo-Nazis.
There's no community to be built here. They've proven they will vote the Hard R after getting fucked over hard the first time and they get to have the day they voted for this election just like the rest of us has to have the day they voted for.
When we do not allow people to redeem themselves, they have zero reason to change or work with us, and will continue being our enemies.
Yeah, they voted Trump and Nazis-- they also have PTSD, trauma, may be grappling with addiction, suffering from mental illness, etc.
They also fought our country and are rightfully angry that we left them to rot in the streets.
We ALL created the conditions that led to Trump.
Thinking that we just need to be violent towards Trumpers to defeat them and THAT is going to fix our country is some really smooth brain thinking.
- PTSD isn't an excuse and it's not every veteran.
- We aren't leaving them on the streets, the Nazis they voted for are.
- "We All" didn't create the conditions.
- Since we're going into insults now, fine, if you want to smooth brain coddle and gargle some Nazi balls, you feel free and let them keep on making America fascist again and stand with Schumer's pathetic strongly worded questions.
If they want to redeem themselves then they need to have some self reflection on their own to understand that voting for Nazis is bad. That's something they have to do themselves and when they actually come out and say, "I'm sorry for being a fucking idiot and voting for a Nazi" and actually back it up with actions like not voting against their own interests because they like racism better, then I'll gladly talk with them. Until then, they can have the day they voted for.
You can continue to be that bleeding heart that thinks being punched in the face time after time without saying enough is enough is a winning strategy, you keep getting punched.
I'll continue to think that Americans need to suffer the consequences of their actions and maybe they'll learn not to hit themselves in the genitals and complain that it hurts afterwards.
61 == 100
Now I may only have a college level understanding of mathology, but...
Not having the understanding of the colloquial phrase "by and large"?
Or not addressing that veterans in 2024 voted in the same numbers as 2016, supporting the theory that veterans aren't actually changing their views?
What exactly are you not getting here?