I feel like it should be possible to ethically train a model that produces bad art. But still better and faster than I could do myself, and so I would have many practical uses for it.
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Ok but this is also an Ai that I would pay a 10 dollar subscription towards just to not have to hunt down what artists are taking commissions and managing prices and everything within the freelance space. I know it will never happen but God it would be nice not spending 10 hours finding an artist I like who isn't wait listing forever.
Back when search engines worked.... Pepper Ridge Farms remembers
the basic problem is to have all artists who are available for commissioning announce it in one place and in a consistent way.
so it's impossible.
well, that is honestly a good use of AI scraping, to find disparate promotions and combine them
no use of ai scraping is good. now, normal scraping is useful, but not to get current information.
Wouldnt asking people to submit artists they know and to track those work if there are enough people?
"getting enough people" is always the problem. it's why so many artists are still on twitter.
Looks like we found a potential use for AI that is not only ethical, but actually useful to.
Honestly Im willing to bet you could do something like this right now. I'm going to ask chat gpt for something similar.
The only downside is that I think SEO will matter even more when going through an AI which is already a bane on online artists.
have you evaluated any of these answers
Hey I'm not here to go to bat for the accuracy of LLMs, it just struck me as something that would get the result from these engines. I poked at the first couple. All the links are broken, they all lead to bad Google maps directions but googling the people in the results takes you to the websites where you can commission from them successfully. I didn't check them all but a few of them work.
Nikolas Towers art looks awesome
Why would you use a whole ass LLM for this when a search engine from 2002 could do the job?
art commissioning has always been interesting to me, because i don't understand it. like, not from the artist's perspective obviously, they want to get paid.
personally, i've never thought "i would like some art". i can appreciate and critique art, and i can compare works to give preference to one over another. but i've never been able to describe a nonexistent piece that i do want.
but people have obviously been doing this for hundreds of years. so... am i broken?
I was in a similar boat until I found some uncommon style I liked. I still haven't commissioned anyone yet, but that's mostly because I can't seem to find any agreed upon terminology for all but the most mainstream of art styles, let alone anyone that is consistently good
Others have mentioned gifts and roleplaying games, but also businesses need art. Clip art, logos, decorative stuff. There’s always something delightful about finding small stores that do window murals, or novelty gas stations, or just stores that take some extra considerations for aesthetic.
Eg - part of Buccee’s is that beaver logo. It would not be the same at all without that logo and the beaver statues.
corpo art is another deal though. nobody wants it, it's just required.
For sure it’s “required” - but sometimes “want” does enter the picture. A lot of classic Americana and Route 66 aesthetic was motivated to sell people shit, but it’s also pretty fun.
I usually make my own art, but I did commission a unique piece as an anniversary gift once. It was in a style that I can't replicate, featured my and my partner's silhouettes, and was created by a friend.
Otherwise, I don't care much for decorations that aren't practical. I'm more of a "useful clutter" type than a "useless decor" type. Ever since I was a kid, I was confused by the concept of playful-looking decorations that you can't play with, like those silver ball things that my grandma decorated her garden with (what do you mean, "I'm not allowed to throw them"?) That feeling never went away. So as an adult, most "decorations" I own today have other uses, including various "stim toys" that I encourage guests to pick up and play with.
As somebody who commissions art this would fucking rule, actually.
Imagine if computers did this with math. Same thing.
The problem isn't that computers do work for us. The problem is that we're violently coerced into serving capital or starving to death at best.
Math, fot the most part, isn't a reflection of human psyche valued for the human connection and a shared soul.
It can be in a lot of places, but usually isn't.
The effort and ingenuity put in to make computers do maths correctly and helpfully is incredible and immense; the way people use computers in original ways to solve incredibly complicated problems is and should be applauded, but the computer also just does exactly what it was told. Given infinite patience and concentration the computer is unnecessary.\
AI art uses already existing art and can't create something original or new. Setting aside the ethics of generators taking credit for work done by others (which is still unethical even outside a capitalist society), it just doesn't create anything interesting or worthwhile because almost definitionally something better already exists.\
Also to counter another argument I have heard before that human artists are 'trained' on other people's art too and often don't credit them. Humans also have innumerable experiences in their life that contribute to everything they think and do which, as chaotic systems go, is pretty good at finding a new path not taken.
This is something I'd love to see, I've generated some things I'd like to find real artists that do similar stuff so I can put it on the wall