Is Dragon 32 a Mac or Windows computer?
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I started on Commodore (Vic20 that I don't remember much, C64, and A500) mostly with a tiny bit of Atari and then was on Windows at home for decades (I tried installing Linux (Mandrake and Redhat) back when it fit on a floppy, but without a lot of success). I guess I'm too old and not neurotypical enough?
I take it someone has already pointed out that excluded was the word wanted?
Don't unclude my vocabulary like that
I’m not unsinuating nothing.
Run a second correlation on the incomes of these families and the tech literacy of their children and see what you find. I have a hypothesis.
In my experience kids who had iDevices don't grow up to be tech literate but do have decently off parents.
I also grew up dirt poor and only had a webTV til I was like... 14. I'm way more tech literate than most it seems.
Should've written "Mac PCs" just to mess with people.
When Apple moved to Intel CPU’s there was the creation of the Hackintosh. Which was running apple’s OS on any PC hardware you had around that happened to be compatible. If you thought finding Linux compatible hardware was rough…that was worse.
I'm aware, yes, and that's what I was referring to. By that time it was basically the same hardware as any other computer, but with slightly different motherboards and with special proprietary firmware.
There's also some irony in the fact that "PC" was once a trademark that became generic. Someone should do the "Is this xerox a Canon?" joke, but with computers.
The thing with Macs is you don't have to spend 80% of your time troubleshooting them. I love my Mac and OS X. I boot it up, log in, and don't have to think about it. The UI is very intuitive and easy to use as well.
Intuitive for very basic things, but if you want to do anything outside the norm or some ease of use things from other desktops, goodluck.
The first mainframe account I ever had was an nCube2 supercomputer. No timesharing or anything, the full power of a Unix system just waiting under your terminal session. Today I have the same CLI under the hood of my MBP because it runs on a Unix kernel. In terms of power tho, this laptop makes the supercomputer look like a toy. I wouldn't call either one's use case "very basic things."
The automation features in macOS are fantastic. Search, filter, run scripts when a new file arrives in a folder, great GUIs for automation, services. It’s sooooo powerful and accessible. Search for menu items in every application from the keyboard. Change keyboard shortcuts for all menus in all applications. Python, ruby, zsh, bash, are all installed by default. The default image and PDF viewer Preview.app has great editing for PDF included.
If you want to get shit done, macOS is just excellent in so many ways.
I started with a windows computer and learned lots about troubleshooting windows. However once I started using a Mac, I actually made cool stuff with my computer like music, nice documents, fun automation, video, programming, and so on.
The indie software scene on macOS is also unmatched, I think. The apps made by Omni and Panic have no equivalent on Linux or Windows. Kaleidoscope.app is the best diff app on any platform.
I've used mac for 2 years now for work (despite my repeated requests for a linux laptop). I have all kinds of weird issues including screensaver taking up gigs of memory, login not working unless I click off my portrait and click back on it (with no other changes), and a bunch of other just weirdness. I can't stand the thing.
Listen I love the battery life on my m1 but it's the first mac I've owned and "intuitive" is not the description I'd use for the ui. Is terminal and homebrew familiar sure, and for most things it does work. But then there are the real oddities in the ui. Like why does finder not show me my full file system by default? Why do I drag and drop when installing a new app, thats fucking stupid. Why are files in folders just placed where ever with no order? There should be a grid pattern that works by default so it doesn't become so disorganized. Why does clicking into folders just add a divider in finder instead of actually opening the folder so that after a couple nested folders you can barely make out file names. If you have lived with that madness for all your life maybe it's "intuitive" because you have gotten used to it but linux and windows are just miles ahead in ui intuitiveness when it comes to basic functionality like this.
Why do I drag and drop when installing a new app, thats fucking stupid.
That's how all file copy operations are done. Apps are just a virtual file that you drag into the Applications folder. To uninstall it you simply delete the file. Done.
As far as folder organization goes, I like that MacOS leaves my files where I left them. There are options to sort files if you need to as well.
I’ve used both since 2001. Windows default search is worse, dragging and dropping to your chosen install location seems to make just as much sense as choosing it in a pop up window, grid and sort by are both right click dialog options. I thought the argument against Mac software was a lack of options so now I’m going to ask why Windows doesn’t let you organize folders by vibes
I don't have to troubleshoot my kid's Speak and Spell either.
That's a good thing. The device does one thing and does it well.
Every year I believe this more and more. I've always been lumped in with the tech crowd by anyone not tech-savvy, but in reality all my knowledge is from personal troubleshooting and very limited (I'm thinking of trying Linux and that's gonna be like a whole ass event for me). I used to think that was dumb, but then I started working with more Gen Z...
They have zero idea how to troubleshoot anything. If the computer doesn't do what they expect, it's a full stop for some of them. I have "solved" so many IT problems by replugging a cable or just knowing the settings option exists. These aren't stupid kids either, they're in a tough industry and very capable otherwise. I think my generation was right place, right time to learn this stuff organically because shit just never worked quite right -- apple was largely the outlier back then.
If you even know what an OS is you're ahead of 70% of the population. Probably more.
I have an external Samsung SSD that my mac mini just refuses to keep indexed.
The solution to this is when I log in every day I have to go into the Mac system settings and tell finder to ignore my external drive, close system setting, then reopen systen setting and tell finder to no longer ignore the external drive. This is the only way to get it to reindex everything.
I need to do this everytime the mac mini wakes from sleep.
OK, that is one thing I haven't figured out yet. How to make persistent SMB mounts.
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I'm curious what her hypothesis is, I don't think there is a correlation at all personally, seen a ton of people who know nothing about their computers regardless of Mac/Windows as their primary os.
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