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President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn't expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn't commit to the same for Greenland. 

"Something could happen with Greenland, I'll be honest," Trump said in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press" that aired on Sunday.  He said that "we need that for national and international security," but he added "I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it."

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 hours ago

I could start WWIII, I can see that happening

Don't you love trump?

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 23 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American citizens. Why would he add the equivalent of another California to the voting population. No Canadian will ever cast a vote in favor of the political party that took their country from them.

What version of statehood is he envisioning here?

The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 3 points 29 minutes ago

It's only rumours so far, but according to the new president nobody is going to vote ever again, soo

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 hours ago

There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American voters ~~citizens~~.

We'll be like Guam or Puerto Rico.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago

They already answered this question. They would use procedural rules to prevent Canadian votes from mattering, the same as they have done in the US in many states.

[–] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.

I thought that's the plan?!

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Making us citizens and giving us statehood are two different things, and I could see the former, but not the latter. Not that we would join willingly in the first place

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Then he needs to stop calling it a 51st. A state can vote. A territory cannot.

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Do US territories legit get no representation in government?

In Canada the territories are a riding, thus have a seat in Parliament (A massive one due to their small and spare population)

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 1 points 44 minutes ago

No, only states do. Although territories have members in congress, they can't vote on any legislation. They have a government set up by Congress and pretty much oversee themselves with no ability to influence elections or laws in the states. The last territory to become a state was Hawaii. Territories are land grabs, statehood comes after that.

Canada would unfortunately be a land grab for the resources and nothing else for Trump. It would be ravaged and the people of Canada would suffer greatly for it without an ounce of ability to do anything about it.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 30 points 9 hours ago

The fact that he's even entertaining this is insane. He needs to be removed from office. Fuck the media for reporting on it like this is just one side of an argument that makes any kind of sense.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

"Something could happen"? Motherfucker, you either make it happen or not. It's not something that's bestowed upon us from the sky

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

Bullies don't attack people they're scared of.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 27 points 17 hours ago

Both are a threat with violence and war to independent states, let there be no mistake.

This should not just be condemned politically by every other country, they should boycot the usa

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 236 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Reminder to the military: you are not required to follow illegal orders. In fact, you are duty-bound to disobey them

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I'm quite positive, whether he invades a sovereign nation or not, in some time -- be it five years, ten, or more -- we'll have our own version of the Nuremberg trials. Whoever is still alive that perpetrated or participated in this rape of democracy will be held accountable, someday, because all dictatorships fall.

The only question is how many people have to suffer before then.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I want to see leavitt do the march to prison. She is the present day Otto.

I hope that you’re right, but it does need to be pointed out that Nazi Germany didn’t have thousands of strategic nukes

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[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 118 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.

That's not what a russian asset would do...

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 5 hours ago

The UN is not an alliance. Perhaps you were thinking of NATO?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Forcing the UN to split their forces between Ukraine and Greenland....

Totally not what a Russian asset would do.

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[–] alltomorrowsregrets@sh.itjust.works 28 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Technically Wolverine is Canadian

[–] sdfric88@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 hours ago

Technically? He's Canadian

[–] gnate@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Puerto Rico should be first in that line, followed by DC.

[–] groet@feddit.org 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

And Guam. And American Samoa. And US virgin islands. And mariana Islands.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 87 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

And y'know what? The US would still lose.

[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

US could do that, sure.

But I bet it'd quickly find out just how much of its power, safety and bravado is due to being located in a geographically safe and isolated area with no real hostile armies trying to end them from the other side of the border.

Just how much of that willingness to fight comes from invading foreign underdeveloped territories across the sea, with little chance for the fight to make its way back to US cities and US civilians.

Easy to start fights from the comfort of a distant home, sending only military lives into the far away battlefield.

Something Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East can't claim, as they have to contend with potentially bad neighbors due to all sorts of reasons.

Go ahead, poke the bear, FAFO.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Trump doesnt care. In fact he’d welcome an invasion on his soil to attack the dems. Saves him from trying to convince the military to arrest citizens for not bending the knee.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

This is the real story of American 'exceptionalism' Its how the US was able to accrue so much wealth during WW2.

Its easy to sit on the sidelines when you're geographically isolated and not #1 though. The world order has changed (in fact they're the ones who reshaped it) and now they are desperately trying to force their way back to the 1950s because they had unbelievable leverage and a incrediblely disproportionate share of global wealth following the war.

In fact, I believe that's in part why we're seeing a backslide in human decency. A lot of less educated folk see that their parents and grandparents were more prosperous when they were racist, misogynist and transphobic and are acting as if going backwards in that regard will bring back the 'good times'.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago (25 children)

Translation:

Canada would probably put up a fight, and bullies only pick on those too weak to resist.

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