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Saying the quiet part out loud

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 113 points 10 months ago (12 children)

People act like this is new...

It's the same reason they keep ranting about "cities want to tell you how to live" and defending the electoral college.

They've never wanted democracy, because they're out numbered. They only have that power they do through disproportionate representation.

[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago (1 children)

... and cheating, gerrymandering, and outright lying. They know they arent representing the majority and are trying to delay the inevitable demise of their power in every way possible.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They don't even have to cheat when it comes to the Senate. It was purpose made to provide disproportionate power to lower population areas. It is an explicitly anti-democratic chamber.

Which is a good thing...to a degree. A check against pure populism is necessary for any healthy Democracy.

But the ratio is completely out of wack nowadays, and doesn't align with how the country exists now. Democrats have to work much harder to get control of it, but Republicans have to do very little to keep it.

It's a structural flaw that is continually getting more destructive and Republicans become more brazen. The chamber that elects our Judges doesn't even have rules in the Constitution for how it must operate. That's such an incredible oversight I don't get how it took until now for it to be abused.

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[–] buddhabound@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's also the reason they always say "We're a republic, not a democracy," despite the fact that a republic is a type of democracy. They abuse language to justify the fact that they don't want everyone to vote, only the people who vote for them. They also don't govern for all of their constituents, only those that contribute to their power. It's definitely not new.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A republic is simply a state without a king or other hereditary monarch. Often the leader is chosen democratically, but not always.

For example, China is a republic but not a democracy. The US is a democratic republic, which makes the claim "this is a republic not a democracy" even sillier.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

--Jean-Paul Sartre

[–] Abraxas@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

What I always like to do is point out that Republicans are about "picking our bosses who will make hard decisions we might not like" vs "doing what the majority wants".

I think a good government could use a little of both. But "majority wants" should be 99% of the laws, with only 1% being "hard, unpopular decisions". Republicans prefer 100% "unpopular decisions"

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[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, poor guy. I can’t be easy to be named after a foul mixture of shit and cum.

[–] Bzzbiotch@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago

You forgot the lube and the froth…

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 44 points 10 months ago

Cons: "We don't want to ban abortion, we just want to return sovereignty over the issue to the states."

States: make abortion a right

Cons: "No, not like that..."

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 42 points 10 months ago

Historically relevant:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/santorum

Noun

santorum (uncountable)

(neologism, sex, slang) A frothy mixture of lubricant and fecal matter as an occasional byproduct of anal sex. [from 21st c.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum#LGBT_issues_and_%22santorum%22

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This guy was named after the mixture of cum and lube leaking out of a person's asshole, why do we care what he thinks?

[–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Came to the comments to see if that was still a thing. Great work!

Thanks, Dan Savage.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

You did what to the comments?

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[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

You forgot the very important adjective "frothy"

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

In the right wing talking sphere they’re talking a lot about how it should be one vote per household. Normalizing business and home owning men being the only voters.

These people hate America.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

"Ankh-Morpork had dallied with many forms of government and had ended up with that form of democracy known as one man, one vote. The Patrician was the Man; he had the vote."

Terry Pratchett, Mort

Or from Unseen Academicals:

"Everyone is entitled to a vote unless disqualified by reason of not being the Patrician"

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

That's some Handmaids Tale shit right there, I tell you hwat

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This guy's name means jizz-poop leakage.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, democracy sucks when the people are ignorant, vile, and selfish.

What the people in Ohio did was realize that empathy and human rights were good. They rejected fascist culture war bullshit and I wish them the best. I hope my state could act like this.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

Make no mistake, Ohio will still vote Trump +10 to +15 whether he’s in jail or not. Thankfully this state had a moment of clarity though.

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[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

"we keep losing elections so let's make elections irrelevant"

Republicans can go fuck themselves

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Saying the unpatriotic, seditious part out loud.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

There's a reason that most of the "founding fathers" only wanted slaveowning rich white men to run the country.

[–] awesomesauce309@midwest.social 11 points 10 months ago

“That’s not fair, we worked really hard disenfranchising these kids. Putting popular policies forward is cheating.”

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

Like Beau says, they want to rule, not to represent.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

he should be fine then, since the US isnt run as any kind of democracy at all, certainly not a pure one.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

Why is anyone even asking this guy for his opinion?

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 8 points 10 months ago

okay, Frothy Mix

[–] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I didn't even realize Rick Santorum was still alive.

[–] snoopfrog@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago

This is the perfect situation where a purely democratic vote is appropriate (not that we should even have to vote on this, but I digress). This doesn't affect your wholesome, small-town voter at all. All they have to do is not have an abortion, and they can make abortion illegal within their own life just like that. Of course people are going to vote for the freedom of their own choice as to whether they have to carry a parasitic body within their own. They should have that freedom to do it or not to do it.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 5 points 10 months ago

Isn't this guy named after the mixture of frothy cum and shit after anal sex? Must be hard having a name like that.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

I don't get why we can't do whatever we want to serve our donors wahhhhh

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Christian supremacists screamed the exact opposite, every time their bigoted ballot measures got struck down.

It's the civil rights, stupid.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That's a lot of talk for used lube...

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

My problem isn't capitalism, my problem is that capitalism has determined that a democracy is hurting it's profits.

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 9 points 10 months ago

My problem is definitely capitalism.

[–] awesomesauce309@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you heard about Central America? Or any oil rich country? Capitalism is a double edged sword, they’re just swinging it at home now.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago

Capitalism would be great if we could run it under constrained conditions that don't exist outside of a single pub somewhere in Birmingham.

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