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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 104 points 7 months ago

OP says it right there: allergy vs intolerance

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago

Fiancée thought she had lactose intolerance, told she had since a young age. She cut out dairy for more than a year and then accidentally ingested some. Turns out it was an allergy and she had to go to the hospital.

[-] JPJones@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Yup. It fucking sucks.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago

People who are lactose intolerant don't usually die from it.

People with peanut allergies very quickly die from it.

Don't think these are really comparable.

[-] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 7 months ago

But you just compared them

[-] TheAmishMan@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is the real difference.

One is an allergy hypersensitivity that triggers the release of histamine that (in this scenario) closes the throat and causes the person to die.

The other is a lack of an enzyme in the stomach to break down a specific component, so instead bacteria break it down. When they break it down, gas is released, which causes the stomach to be irritated.

So one is your throat literally trying to kill you, vs your stomach being irritated (possibly very bad). Not downplaying lactose intolerance, but its not the same as a type 1 hypersensitivity

Edit - as pointed out, most the stuff for lactose intolerance happens in the intestines not the stomach

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Small correction: the stomach does not break down lactose, it's in the small intestine where lactase breaks it down into glucose and galactose which are then absorbed. The irritation that occurs in lactose intolerant people is an irritation of the colon due to the gaseous bloat allowing more liquid to enter, the stomach is unaffected by all of this.

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[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 29 points 7 months ago

This is also how you make a bomb that will leave your SO questioning their life choices

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

My ex-roommate was like that.

There were not enough windows to open in that place we lived in. Not nearly enough.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago

Dude, you could live in the open air with me and there wouldn't be enough ventilation to dissipate my noxious butt cloud after I drink a glass of milk.

[-] Knusper@feddit.de 21 points 7 months ago

I just glug down my chocolate oat milk. Hits the same spot, without the explosive side effects.

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Milk I'm fine on, but even if I didn't have LI I'd prefer Oat, it's ice cream that gets me - trust me, I've tried em all, nothing dairy free compares to a pint of Ben n Jerry's (yes, not even their own dairy free stuff)

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago
[-] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 18 points 7 months ago

Carpe Kaseum: Seize the cheese.

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Carpe Kasem: Seize the ground and the stars.

[-] DarkenLM@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

Seize the means of cheese production!

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Alright, I got a cow, but now there's this asshole lurking about going on about "magic beans".

The cows doing nothing. She's staring at him while she chews cud. What do I do? Can I stab him? She seems like a good cow, I don't see a need to trade her for some beans, but he refuses to leave.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

There are strategic cheese reserves in Missouri

[-] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago

I was lactose intolerant as a child. I insisted on eating ice cream anyways. One day, I realized I was no longer lactose intolerant.

[-] blargerer@kbin.social 25 points 7 months ago

As someone that eats a moderate amount of dairy despite being lactose intolerant, my intolerance has gotten much worse with age.

[-] Eegra@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Tried lactase pills? Cheap and effective.

[-] naught@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

There are also a ton of great dairy alternatives now too! Except cheese. The final frontier.

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Miyoko brand cashew cheeses are excellent if you're not looking for melted cheese. They have an aged cheddar and a soft herbed "cheese" that are great as a cheese-board type thing. Also there are other companies making fake shredded cheese that is lightyears ahead of the soy-based rubbery garbage of a decade ago. I use a fake shredded cheddar on pizza - and it's much better than being almost but not entirely unlike actual cheese. That said, I miss cheese. Stupid sexy alpha gal allergy.

[-] naught@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I will have to check it out! Ive tried Daiya and a billion others but nothing is quite right (or is just flat out awful). That said, totally agree on soft cheeses / dips / spreads. Nothing beats a proper cheese pizza with mozz tho ;-;

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Violife cheese is what my store carries. It’s better that daiya but not perfect. I’ve enjoyed the “sandwich slice” cheese they have, good melted.

[-] TRBoom@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

For cheese you just need to find one that has 0 grams of sugar in it. Lactose is a sugar, so if the cheese has 0g then it's generally safe to eat.

I'm extremely lactose intolerant (makes my stomach bleed) and I can eat cheese all day if it has zero sugar.

[-] naught@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Neat! Hadnt considered that. Luckily I'm just a veggie by choice so the worst that happens is I feel bad for the cows and maybe a bit bloated.

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[-] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

Aww. You have my sympathies.

Live fast and eat cheese. 🫡

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

I need a shirt with this entire quote on it

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[-] TesterJ@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I was lactose intolerant as a baby. Grew out of it and ate cheese all the time. Then at 28 I was suddenly lactose intolerant again. Still eat cheese all the time but I just keep lactaid on me.

[-] sift@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

When I was a kid, I was diagnosed as being lactose intolerant as well. The thing is, I'm not lactose intolerant at all. I'm actually gluten intolerant. It's very hard to diagnose without cutting gluten out of one's diet. And I only figured out because I started making bread a few times each week and got very sick.

The thing is, I always used to think I'd outgrown my lactose intolerance, too. If you have the time, maybe give a gluten free diet a try. My life is so much different now after cutting out gluten. At one point I was going to the gym for 2 hours a day, trying to lose weight, but I just couldn't. Now, I'm the skinniest I've been in years and I mostly sit around.

Unfortunately, the diet really does have to be totally gluten free. Even cross contamination will give me noticable problems for days. The body basically cripples its ability to intake nutrients after having any amount of gluten and it takes time to heal. On the bright side, it's a pretty easy diet to follow when eating at home and a lot of restaurants now have gluten free options, too.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I made a other version of this meme:

People on top of a skyscraper: “Please don’t push me off; I’ll die”
People in a war: “Please don’t shoot me, I’ll die.”
People at Disneyland: “Omg Disneyland is so fun.”

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

It really makes you think

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Absolutely agree with your point. But as someone who's (granted, pretty severely) lactose intolerant, I most definitely wouldn't call it Disneyland lol

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

I need my cheese and my yogurt. Thankfully, I can digest them. Ha ha, I win the evolution game.

[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 14 points 7 months ago

Plenty of cheese are lactose-free. It is destroyed during the fermentation.

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I was about to say you're full of malarky, but then I looked it up - and your right, aged cheeses are extremely low in lactose. Some as low as 1 mg per 100 g. Too bad I also have alpha gal allergy at the moment and it's thought that mammal products that don't cause anaphylaxis still have enough of the alpha gal sugar cause an inflammatory response/unstable arterial plaques that greatly increases stroke risk.

[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 4 points 7 months ago

I'm sorry for you. I didn't mean that you could it when you have allergy of course. But I know someone with a form of lactose intolerance for which the doctor authorised cheese in an otherwise strict diet.

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago

Am I lactose intolerant or am I just really good at clearing out rooms of unwanted guests?

[-] Damaskox@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago

I've understood that you can get over some allergies with tolerance treatment.

I've also understood that the older you get, the more allergies you get.

[-] SuzyQ@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Cows milk will make me very sick, but cheese is my weakness. I can tolerate (hard) cheese and a bit of butter, but everything else... Nope. Not even ice cream. Upside is I can eat all the cheese I want and not get stopped up. 🙃🫠

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Wait.... your version of lactose intolerance is you get "stopped up"?!? My version is dairy-based Draino pressure washing the bowl in brown noisomeness.

[-] SuzyQ@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

Oh, no. Sorry for the confusion. My husband, who is NOT lactose intolerant, will get constipated after eating lots of cheese while I will not.

Besides the loose bowel movements afterwards, I can also do a fair impersonation of one of the kids from a horror film (the exorcist, maybe) and have it spew from the other end.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Normies get stopped up by cheese, us intolerants counteract the constipation with explosive diarrhea.

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[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Dairy is just too tasty to pass up. 🐮🧀🥛🍦🍧🍨🧈

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[-] CassowaryTom@lemmy.one 4 points 7 months ago

95% of People who are allergic to gluten and dairy are unable to control themselves around bread, noodles and cheese. Yeah, I wonder why you feel backed up, Eric, after hoovering the charcuterie board

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