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I wanna listen to a particular song by an artist who has recently turned pretty nazi. As I generally use Spotify I now refuse to listen to his music in there, esp as it generates earnings. I kinda wanna pirate the music somehow…I’m not gonna as I’m not gonna down a song or two and then store it on my phone like it’s the year 2000. But short story is this me justifying piracy to myself.

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[–] shadshack@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My wife refuses to let me pirate books for her. She wants to support the authors she reads, which is fair. But she decided she wanted to try the Harry Potter books, and asked me to pirate them for her to make sure JK Rowling didn't get a penny out of her.

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Now that's a keeper

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 hours ago

I periodically delete my Metallica collection so I can re-download it for no other reason than fuck Lars.

If there is an indie game that I like I will buy it

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 0 points 2 hours ago

Nearly everything is priced in dollars and I'm too fucking broke and Brazilian to pay the asking price most of the time.

Yeah. I refuse to give cuts to amazon, spotify, netflix etc.

If I pirate something from a not super rich artist and I really enjoy it. I’ll send them an email and propose to transfer them some money to support them. I don’t want spotify or amazon or google taking a cut.

[–] remon@ani.social 6 points 5 hours ago

I never needed any moralistic reason to pirate.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Pirate away but... i would simply still not listen to any music made by a nazi. Plenty of good songs out there NOT made by a nazi.

[–] rosco385@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

I am the High Priest of Kopimism. Download from where you want, and go in peace my child.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 hours ago

Of course. I stand on high moral ground when I chose to pirate.

Economy is broken and anti-consumer. Piracy if the only way I know to balance things of. If I wouldn't be pirating I would just be letting those economic bullies take advantage of me.

And specially with cultural products there's another big reason, as I think human culture is to be shared, not sold. I do actually think is inmoral to prevent other humans to freely access anything that could be considered cultural.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My piracy is probably equal parts sticking it to greedy corpos and me just not wanting to pay when I can get it for free.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

Same, but rather than not wanting to pay its more like I can't afford to pay.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 22 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I pirate all the games that:

  • Require an internet connection
  • Use Denuvo
  • Require a dedicated launcher
  • Require a connected account

If you're going to make the paid experience significantly worse than the free one because you want to implement anti-consumer BS, go fuck yourself

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Really important "morals" you've got there. External launchers? Really? Almost like people just look for excuses to pirate and save money. At least be honest with yourself.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Then don't give me excuses. Don't be a scumbag. External launchers only exist to serve ads and DRM, they have no benefit to the consumer. I own hundreds of games, imagine if each one of them required a dedicated launcher!?

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 14 hours ago

Also rootkit anti cheat.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly there's so much wonderful art out there not created by Nazis, I don't know that it's worth the energy to pirate Nazi music.

I totally understand the moral pirate argument, I just don't have time to enjoy all of the games, movies, and music from artists I support. To waste what time I have engaging with content from people I find morally repugnant is just not where I'm investing

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

Same goes for sexual abusers too.

Doesn't matter how good that first Lostprophets album is, I just can't listen to it knowing what Watkins got up to, so I'll listen to music by people who didn't fuck a literal baby.

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 86 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 34 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 9 points 18 hours ago
[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 40 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Ripping off Jeff Bezos is a moral imperative.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Similarly, I have pirated The Sims 4 multiple times. Not because I plan on playing it any time soon, but rather because stealing from EA Games is always morally correct.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Why so specific...

Deny all parasites profit and engagement as much as possible where ever possible.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 15 hours ago

See, that’s the thing. I don’t listen to music by Nazis.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 8 points 15 hours ago

Pirating Andor bc Disney+ is on the BDS list. One of the best shows I've ever seen but I'd sooner drop it than violate the boycott, even if money was no object. As things stand, piracy is the only ethical way to watch it.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 15 hours ago

Personally I won't even download it, I even deleted music ive had for years because the artist went maga. And let my daughter use the CD in some arts and crafts, because I can't listen to it anymore.

That said, yeah, I'd prefer to download over buying if I didnt want the company or artist to get the money for it.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If it can't own my media, I'm certainly not going to pay for it.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 18 hours ago

Corpos think we are stupid and they gonna be able to use the big dick of daddy Sam to force us into compliance...

These idiots don't understand who the back bone of piracy communities are 🤡

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 15 hours ago

Yup, if you use Denuvo for your games, you can fuck right off

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, it's kinda down to personal perspective. In mine, absolutely a reasonable way to handle things if you love the art, but don't feel morally comfortable supporting the artist.

I recommend people pirate Enders Game, because fuck Orson Scott Card.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

I was a newly out queer teenager when OSC started running his mouth about gay marriage. At the same time I was a big Harry Potter fan.

Fuck Orson Scott Card, but he doesn't seem quite so bad anymore.

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When I wanted to revisit Harry Potter via audiobook, I pirated the books, and I will do it again someday.

[–] crewman_princess@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 16 hours ago

I mean free is nice but I seed because fuck the system and upload stuff because it's suppose to be available to all.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

A system that allowed one to pirate corporate American made or distributed content while being able to give back directly to creators would be nice.

[–] colournoun@beehaw.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Go to their shows. Buy their merch. That’s where the creators get the most profit.

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[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You should download it to a personal media server and stream it to your phone if you want to enjoy piracy the modern way.

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[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 4 points 16 hours ago

Nah I'm just poor

If I had a better situation though, I would pirate for moral reasons

[–] LodeMike 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yes I do this all the time for games

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 11 points 19 hours ago

They tell us we don't own the game, only a license to play the game that they can arbitrarily revoke.

If you are going to hold my right to play something I paid for hostage, you can bet I am going to reclaim what I lost if that access is taken away from me (this does not apply to you selfish assholes that hack games to cheat then get banned).

[–] IndieSpren@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Disco Elysium is a great target for this

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 5 points 17 hours ago

If he has turned Nazi then I probably wouldn’t both to listen to them anymore.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You have commitment issues with subscriptions.

I despise rent seeking behaviour.

we are not the same.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago

Downloading and listening can still indicate an indirect form of support. Up to the individual, but I lean towards this guy being as canceled as possible, recommend rerouting any efforts to listen to this towards searching for some new exciting music.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 7 points 19 hours ago

Absolutely. Chris Brown is a prime example. I quite like some of his collab tunes, but I absolutely refuse to give any money - a percentage or not - to that wifebeating spunktrumpet.

In fact, the fact that I'm actively screwing him out of money makes me enjoy the song more.

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