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Well that backfired on Ethan

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[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 30 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Wonder if my radlib boss will notice or if she will just stick to theo von

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 2 points 23 minutes ago

I wonder what your boss thinks about

  • Theo Von's Hasan Piker episode a couple months ago
  • Theo Von's Candace Owens episode the week before that
[–] grym@hexbear.net 79 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

It's when I see people here say shit like "he's a fed" and thinking he may be "making this up" that I'm reminded a lot of people here need to touch grass and do a bit of a reality check lmao.

Hasan is good. This is not surprising. He's doing well to talk about it and make noise about it.

[–] CarlMarks@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 hour ago

Hasan is a slightly-left-of-AOC streamer doing the "we can push them left" thing, where the "them" is imperialist social democrats/left liberals. The place at which his followers arrive is, "I will only reluctantly vote for Kamala Harris" and, "I wish I could vote for AOC 2028". He occasionally arrives aa socialist positions and language like a toddler finding a new toy. He learns the toy, plays with it for a while, talks about it on stream, and then discards it. He wants to be on the edge of mainstream. Can't let the toy get in the way of that.

This is only good and useful in the same fashion that Bernie could be thought of as useful: some will be inspired by the toy, the appeal of possibility and pointing to (mostly) correct culprits of oppression, and then their disappointment at nothing changing may help radicalize. But many, probably the vast majority, will be led back to the Democratic party and liberalism, as Hasan neither offers them an onramp himself nor points anyone to next steps. He just returns to stream about electoral politics, Trump, the next elections, etc. And his audience follows him there.

Hasan should be considered situationally useful. We should be there to pick up the disaffected, as he is not pointing them to us. And doing it through our organizations. If we are not, then he is not part of any pipeline to developing more socialists, but just creating more Bernie-adjascent electoralists that sit at home and will be susceptible to most propaganda.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 1 points 46 minutes ago

They literally pulled me aside at TSA to inspect the blunt stakes in my tent bag that I was taking as carry on because it was way smaller than my big duffel bag. Funnily enough they only did this on my way BACK from going to Pine Ridge to meet with a bunch of former AIM elders. three-heads-thinking

the people who need to touch grass are those who are on a first-name basis in their parasocial relationship with a streamer

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

The only really dumb take I've seen is him saying that owning a credit card would make him bourgeois

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Hasan is criticized for advocating for leading baby leftists back into the fold of the Democratic Party. And its not just “hexbear” who says this. We already had a similar situation where an obvious British agent was victimized due the genocidal policies of the empire.

Hopefully hasan can grow from that injustice, but that suddenly doesn’t make him lenin 2.0.

[–] grym@hexbear.net 29 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think he's lenin at all. I think he does a good job agitating and educating, that's it. That's much more than most people can claim to do. I disagree that he leads leftists back into the democratic party, then again i'm not american, but that sounds nonsensical to me.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I like him okay. I just don't really find his stream that interesting. Plenty fan of his message, enjoy that he watches One Piece, sometimes he hangs out with Valkyrae's group. But I'm there to watch video games personally. I don't feel any extra love for the Dems because I follow him

[–] grym@hexbear.net 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

same, i sometimes put on his stream if there's something interesting going on but mostly that type of content and the constant derailment by chat annoys me. His message is good and i'm glad he gets people on the right track.

[–] KnownUnknownKnower@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

The chat stuff pisses me off. A firehouse of liberalism and trolls to the face would probably drive me insane though so props

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 62 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, too many on Hexbear got that "Too cool for school" ass energy that needs to be dispensed with asap

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 25 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Offshoot of the Western leftist mantra of nothing ever being holy enough.

Hasan does good shit within the confines of the parameters he can exist within, and is a net positive for us, even if he doesn't share our views one-to-one.

[–] Aceivan@hexbear.net 17 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

yeah someone who watches hasan and learns about the world and takes what he says seriously is a lot more likely to then be receptive to going further, learning more and coming to understand hasan's limitations and bad/mid takes. But on the whole he's a positive, even if he's got a ton of fans who are oblivious or don't fully take his points/logic to heart, let alone go further, they are at least not instinctively anticommunist and generally vibe with us.

He makes calls and has takes that i don't agree with, often in the interest of "optics",, but just covering the shit that he does is a huge boost to the level of discourse happening in a lot of corners of the internet. Just getting people talking about ansarallah and their blockade in a positive light and with context is a huge boost against the "they're just terrorists attacking civilian shipping vessels" people

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@hexbear.net 27 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

They don't like it that a guy can be both 'on the right side of history' and handsome, probably, lol.

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 20 points 5 hours ago

That is silly. All hexbears are remarkably good-looking and I refuse to believe otherwise.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Incorrect, the reason I don't like him is because of this rod-polishing parasocial relationship people have with him for scraping the literal bare minimum, which isn't unique to him but part of a larger critique of the alienation that is inherent to streamer media.

I mean for Christ's sake, this is the exact same argument as 'You just criticize capitalism and want communism because you are jealous of other's success' level of breadtube argument slop.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@hexbear.net 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You don't like him because people e-fellate him? That can't be on him. Sure, I understand if you want someone as popular and 'on our side' to be deeper, more intellectual, more politically engaged, but I won't let perfect be the enemy of good. In a world of Ethans and Musk fanboys, Hasan is a breath of fresh air, and that is enough for me.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I never said it was 'on him'. I'm not even mad that he is surface level. Don't put words in my mouth, please.

I said that it was part of a larger critique. Streaming culture is bad for us, politically, as leftists. It is inherently bad because it creates a simulacra of community, without even a hint of theoretical will to power. It is the ultimate liberal simulation of politics without actually being politics. You feel 'politically engaged' without actually engaging with the polity. How can you? The community only exists if you are actively online supporting it, which means you are actively disengaged from the polity. You are engaging with a petite bourgeois capitalist influencer on a capitalist rentier platform. At least recognize it.

As such, even the best part of it, which Hasan absolutely is, is still bad. Therefore, I don't like him, because I don't have to like him.

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

Fantastic comment, saving it for the next time I need to articulate one of the reasons why I don't watch streamer media

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 56 points 9 hours ago

Ethan is so incompetent, he can't even sic the US government on a middle eastern guy named Hasan with leftist tendencies lol

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 94 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Hasan is blowing up—

Not beating the terrorism allegations, Mr. Piker!

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 40 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

now you say that but i saw

Hasan is blowing

and stopped there crush

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 22 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Now hold on a moment there, officer! I never said what he was blowing, he could be blowing balloons for the May Day parade! oh-shit

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 54 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Man with middle eastern/turkish origins detained in America over his politics. And they are left leaning. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner tbh. If you wanna be a turkish man in the spotlight you need to sniff American war criminal butt like that enes freedom nerd.

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