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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Getting ready to drop some raspberry pi OpenWRT WiFi 7 with WiFi HaLow around westchester to downtown. Let me know needed areas!

[–] Gmork@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 minutes ago

This sounds cool but what exactly will it do and what's the purpose? What will these devices be connected to for internet? Local stores wifi and then extending it for others to use?

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 1 points 12 minutes ago

Okay I read the explanation on their faq page but I’m still kinda confused on how this works. Don’t they need like satellites for internet access? What exactly is this in simple terms? Like it seems good, I just want to understand it

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

Now if we could just talk to some EU internet satellites...

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Can they start building affordable housing and go around the manipulated housing market?

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 37 minutes ago

That only part of the issue. An affordable home today can quickly raise in value, gentrification, the secondary real estate market, tax appraisal, these are all still problems.

[–] arrakark@lemmy.ca 10 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] nroth@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

That is for sharing! I'm up to see what I can do on the UWS (signed up) but maybe that's too far

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cue lawsuits from ISPs in 3, 2, 1...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Time to go cyberpunk. Hidden routers using stolen electricity.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

There’s a bunch of LoRaWAN and Meshtastic out here too. Join the movement!

[–] axh@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I am old enough and geek enough to be bothered by the use of the word "WiFi" instead of the Internet or just network.

It's only WiFi if you connect the wireless router at the end.

Edit: just noticed mention of the "antenna at the roof" on the page, but I still don't think it's WiFi, "WiFi" is a name of the technology that allows wireless access by multiple devices. I think it's rather radio communication between the router and the access point. They basically use radio waves instead of the cable, it was often used in rural areas in my country, where putting cables would be too expensive.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

WiFi is a specific protocol, IEEE 802.11 (with a lower case letter at the end for the version). There have long been hobbyist and commercial methods for using it with point-to-point links. There are some other wireless methods for this, like LoRa/Meshtastc, but they tend to be slower and less developed. Everyone prefers using WiFi.

So, yes, they are using WiFi in a point-to-point way. The antenna is directional to give it (potentially) several miles of range.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 hour ago

Usually a dish these days rather than waveguide, but yes.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 16 hours ago

Setup some multi km Wi-Fi bridges before, that was fun.

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Same here and when people refer to the PC tower as the CPU

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 19 hours ago

I didn't know that's even a thing.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

That I cut a bit of slack for, because prior to the minicomputer let alone the microcomputer, the CPU would likely have been a large component like the whole system is for a desktop PC.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 8 points 1 day ago

But.. It is P2P WiFi...

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It would seem a lot of people think Wi-Fi is internet. I've heard someone call it "Wi-Fi with exclamation mark" when without internet access.

[–] truxnell@aussie.zone 15 points 1 day ago

My eldest when her internet want working confidently told me her computer couldn't connect to the globe

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago

I'm old enough and nerd enough to be slightly peeved that "community built" isn't hyphenated ("community-built").

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Language is so weird these days...

Everything is "app" nowaways

A .exe install on windows is "app"

A reddit account is "app"

Buying a phone plan and inserting a sim card into a phone is "activation" of a phone

Lol

Its a windows program or software

Reddit is not an "app", its a platform.

You're not "activating" your phone, your phone is already usable, all you did was purchase a voice/data plan and inserted a sim card. "Activation" is a apple internet lock thing, totally separate.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago

I noticed the gradual shift from program to app over time since the iPhone took the world by storm, but then again it was never incorrect. Applications are synonymous with programs so an executable on your windows desktop is an app as much as it is a program.

I've never come across anyone referring to a Reddit account as an app but I can definitely see someone who interacts with Reddit exclusively using the Reddit app referring to both the platform and a means of accessing as the same thing both out of a conscious choice for convenience or ignorance and actually they'd be right either way except in the latter case only accidentally since it you say "I really love using that app Reddit to look at memes and talk to people" despite not actually knowing the app isn't the platform, your sentence would still be correct.

The activating thing, I jimmycrackcrack declare that I will allow it. Look it's a sneaky hardware manufacturer and provider term to imply the device doesn't work until you give them money but then, as a piece of language with utility, well... your phone doesn't work without a sim, at least in the common understanding of what "work" means here. Since a phone of any stripe, dumb or smart is pretty useless without a sim card, getting that message across to consumers that you have to do something to make it functional, to "activate" it is necessary. You could choose to frame it as unlocking but then again if you're selling these things you probably don't want people thinking you locked them up and then sold them the keys and in fact, the manufacturers kinda didn't, it's the service provider that doesn't provide service to a functioning device until they're given money, who are doing that and given they're a business, that's sorta how they have to operate.

[–] deur@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

You don't know what the word "application" is lol

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[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I hope they are aware of https://freifunk.net/ and don't start from scratch completely. They've been doing that kinda stuff for over a decade and have developed a modified OpenWRT version and maintain lists of compatible routers

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

NYC Mesh has been around for more than a decade. I assume they talked to other similar projects when building it.

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[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see freifunk networks more rarely nowadays. They also are notoriously slow. Usually the mobile phone network is faster, even in Germany.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I’m shocked this is going through. I gotta imagine at least Tennessee will block it. They’re super pro-big isp.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Okay, going off the title to start with you're building a WiFi network, that's very cool (I'm guessing it's a mesh network), but will you connect it to the Internet too?

That'd be more of a headline if so, then just building a WiFi network.

Website literally has mesh in the name, no need to guess. Then would you believe it, but if you open the site it tells you more information and mentions the internet several times.

[–] TheHalifaxJones@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

My friend has been using NYCmesh for a couple years now. He has nothing. It positive things to say about it.

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[–] ryanvgates@infosec.pub 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Does anyone know what other cities are building similar networks? Or how to get started doing it in your city?

[–] TheHalifaxJones@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I reached out to the NYC mesh folks and they are going to walk me through it. It seems like a lot of work. But the more people who can get to help. The stronger it becomes.

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