Yesterday I was at a rave with all-gender restrooms. Just as big bathroom predicted it was total mayhem. People queueing, making smalltalk, doing the things people do at the bathroom. I'm so thankful big bathroom protects us from this madness /s
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In the US at least, the women's restrooms used to say "colored"
The reason we still have gendered bathrooms is because we didn't change building codes for bathrooms and water fountains after segregation.
Huh, that makes sense.
You'll also see double water fountains and double sinks in Jim Crow era installations.
Bathrooms are a scam invented by Big Shit to sell more pooping
I mean..you are more right than you think.
Bathroom fixture manufacturers created a massive marketing/propaganda campaign around the idea of Hygiene, and the idea that its better for your health and safety, simply because they wanted to sell more fixtures..and the way to do that was to get more houses built with indoor plumbing facilities, because in the era before this.. a solid chunk of the population still used outhouses, and bathed in portable tubs they filled with water heated up one pot at a time on a stove once every few weeks.. if that. and because filling the tub was so much work, the whole family washed in it, without changing the water.. usually the husband first, then the mother, then the kids in order of age got to bath in the bouillabaisse of mom and dads filth.
You'd be gobsmacked how many things like that are the result of marketing.
Milk being essential for bone health? Another marketing gimmick, from the dairy industry.
Diamonds are essential for proposals/weddings? Another marketing gimmick, from the diamond cartels.
and more.
I knew about diamonds and I believe about milk.
But you can pry indoor plumbing and hot water heaters from my cold dead hands. Sometimes the marketing works because it's a good idea lol
Wasnt arguing that you should get rid of them :p
Just pointing out the fact that you only care about them, ultimately, because of a very successful advertising campaign to sell more fixtures.
But you're mistaken. It isn't big plumbing companies selling more shitting - it's taco bell
Deodorant was first marketed to immigrants and that's how it took hold. People mildly-to-seriously stank for all of human history and it just was, perfumes have always been a market too. But then someone was like "but what if we made these folks feel even more ostracized to sell them a solution"
And this began the "your body is fucking disgusting" cycle that now encourages us to literally coat ourselves head-to-toe in (eczema to cancer causing) chemical deodorants. Great.
Okay but like, the human body does in fact suck in many ways, one of those being that we're naturally filthy as fuck.
It's worth noting that the above is, of course, an opinion. I find human stench repulsive. Many do. Some don't. But regardless, I don't think less of a person or culture for not using or having access to the typical hot water + exfoliating + soap + deodorant + scent + moisturizer method that western culture holds so dear. I couldn't do without it. And yes I'm slightly grossed out as a natural reaction when people don't use it. But I don't think "that uncultured savage pig doesn't bathe* in that situation, that would just be horrible. Unfortunately many do think that way, and I agree that that kind of hostile, accusatory thinking is likely partially due to western marketing.
I personally am a transhumanist in philosophy. I think that if we can make a way to make the human body some radiant vessel that would have been worshipped as a goddess across most of human history, that such an endeavor is worth while. But many look down on others when such standards become normalized. That is the key difference: another main tenant of transhuman philosophy is the idea of bodily autonomy. You inhabit the vessel you want, whether bathed or not.
And I agree that marketing has, in fact, been instrumental in pushing that "your body is fucking disgusting" idea onto others so heavily. Capitalism capitalizes best on making people feel lower or less important without a product.
Deodorant and I have never really spent much time together - perhaps because I live in a mild climate and don't do much sports - but god damn do I love a hot shower.
You wouldn't download a bathroom
Of course not, you download to a bathroom.
I wouldn't. Not as long as there's free trees outside.
... climate change is a hoax by Big Bathroom to sell more bathrooms. MindBlown.gif
PSA: Don't pee on trees, pee on rocks if available. Some animals will lick your dry pee off trees because they're gross and this will hurt the tree's bark.
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Before the 1960s people just shat in the woods.
Public restrooms were campaigned for by suffragettes because women were unable to leave their homes for any period without them. Men would just wee against a fence.
That's the Victorian era for you. But for many earlier centuries women went out all the time to take care of various errands, so they must have had some form of acceptable public peeing, even if it's not written down for us to study. Maybe they just gathered up their skirts and squatted behind a designated bush. Definitely sounds like the kind of thing Queen Victoria would have suppressed.
Does the pope shit in the woods?
Closest one to Vatican is like 10 min drive or 40-ish min walk. It's most likely forbidden to shit there plus it's also unlikely that he makes the trip every time he needs to go. They might have a secret forest hidden underneath the Vatican, however. We may never know.
Dan Brown knows the secret but he doesn't want to say it. Dan Brown, it was in front of us the whole time.
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Sometimes
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This is why i don't understand why bathroom companies aren't creating more genders in order to create more bathrooms.
They could boost their sales to numbers not seen since the days of racial segregation
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Selling is a scam invented by Big Sales so they can sell more sales
They're slowly getting more and more evil, don't be fooled sheeple!
Nah, genders were invented by men to avoid giving birth!
Fucking patriarchy strikes again
I must be doing it wrong. I gave birth to some kidney stones years ago.
Do not reccomend.
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It's sort of the other way. Buildings in the southern US before the 1960s, besides having gendered bathrooms, also had separate bathrooms for white and black people. So 4 kinds of bathrooms. The Pentagon today is apparently a bathroom user's paradise, because it was built in the 1940s with enough bathroom capacity for all its users even having the 4 kinds of bathrooms. Then after desegregation, its bathrooms got consolidated into just 2 kinds (by gender). So it now has 2x more bathroom capacity per person than newer office buildings have.
Jeez. I always thought IBS would prevent a pentagon job, maybe the Pentagon was just designed for IBS in a way.
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I had to look this up. It seems gendered bathrooms are very old.
I cannot vouch for this site, but it introduces interesting history. https://historyqa.com/gendered-bathrooms-history/
(The version of history needs to be confirmed and scholarly sources I found have broken URLs.)
I'm all for all-gender bathrooms, but there MUST be at least two public bathrooms at any given spot. I can't tell you how uncomfortable it is to take a first date to a museum, both need to use the bathroom, and walk into the single, silent, all-gender bathroom, and try to pretend you can't hear each other doing your business. I assume gay folks have been struggling with this since the beginning, but y'all should have said something
Fuck this idea. It would screw up everything. I judge my dates on the fortitude of flatulence. Stop trying to make the bathroom woke.
I think we should get over hangups like this. Oh well you heard each other piss. Big pissing deal. If one or both of you were shitting that's just bad date planning. Shit and get off before you go on a date.
I agree that societally we should get over it, but it doesn't change the fact that it's an awkward activity on a first date
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When I was in college, it was funny how the engineering building only had one restroom per floor - they were all mens until like the 70’s, cuz wommin can’t be engineers of course.
The only issue I have with unisex bathrooms is that by the end of the night women's bathrooms look like a horror movie.
I used to work at a gas station. I'd have to clean the bathrooms once per shift.
The mens bathroom? A couple of wet spots next to the toilet. I always attributed this to the guys who end up getting multiple streams, and don't know what to do.
The womens bathroom? Look. I know women bleed once a month. I get it. But ladies, what the fuck are you doing in the gas station bathrooms??? Are you having coat hanger abortions??? Is it like a woman thing to all contribute to one communal blood pool? There is no way these nightly horror scenes all came from one person unless they had a recently chopped off limb! Is Freddie Kruger attacking you ladies while you're pooping? I have never figured out what the womens bathroom experience is, but it has SHATTERED any illusion to me that women are cleaner/neater than men. We may leave dirty laundry around the house for days, but you gals have an exorcism as you toot.
See, this is why everyone says girls don't poop. They DON'T poop. They disembowel.
Played a show in Cambridge, MA back in 2007. After the show I needed to take a shit so they told me to use the women’s room since the men’s room was only urinals.
Women’s room toilet had soft serve instead of a toilet seat. Someone literally just shit on top of the toilet. I chalked it up to a Massachusetts thing and moved to Colorado.
It's even worse in clubs. I've seen pads and tampons stuck to the walls, random objects in the toilet, soiled panties left on the floor. And this isn't the extremes either. This is a normal fri-sat.
Absolutely. It's night and day the minute you add alcohol into the mix. I remember telling my old boss I wouldn't clean the women's bathroom after weddings anymore unless I got hazard pay.
What is with the tampom wall thing?
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