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[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 177 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i'm pro Luigi but if the whole thing is a setup they really should have picked a less photogenic character. that man is incapable of not looking like a boss.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I dont think it was an intentional setup, its was a rookie cop (for real, he was new) who arrested the first person he found where one person from the public claimed it was the perpetrator, and he didn't marandise him, searched his bag without him bring able to see it. And didn't find a gun. Arrested him (remember I said didn't marandise), called someone from new York, who came down 6 hours later, then they found a gun in his bag.

Yes Luigi was at a hostel in new York the day of the shooting. This is the only link they have. Similar, not the same looking jacket, other clothes were not the same. Was in the same city.

I dont believe Luigi was the shooter. If he was he woudlnt bring a gun to McDonald's

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

agreed that no one goes to that much trouble to carry out an assassination then walks around with the murder weapon. plus i wouldn't trust a plastic homemade gun to begin with, but after it had been fired several times? that's literally trash.

the only mitigating factor I guess could be mental illness. Brian Thompson wasn't exactly an obvious target, as far as evil CEOs go, still seems weird to pick him

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you read the things United Healthcare has done and continues to do to people in the name of profit, and even if that's not enough, if your life or the life of someone you cared about got ruined because of the decisions of your insurance providers, that could be motivation enough for someone.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hey calm down i don't work for them.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes can't you see, hes unemployed, so he can't work for them

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you didn't read the whole username. I got fired from being a claquer, which means I can't get paid to clap in 19th century French theatre productions. Gosh!

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

No that would mean you are a claquer that is unemployed, I know because

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think he is the guy (not that it’s a bad thing).

The “anonymous tip” that lead to his capture was rather “illegal surveillance/technology the plebs don’t need to know about”. And they found the gun and manifesto in NY and planted it on him to make the case go smoother.

I honestly think they fucked up massively, thus the endless delays of the trial. In a high profile case like this, if the evidence was solid, they would have already crucified him.

I hope for a mistrial or acquittal, maybe it will be the final spark that ignites change in the US, and later the world, leading to the death of neoliberal capitalism.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sounds like a much more complex reason than just incompetence, so both Occam's razor and Hanlons razor would support incompetence rather than a conspiracy

And if that conspiracy was true, why would they send a rookie cop?

[–] StarshotJohn@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Smoke weed -> years in prison, Rape someone -> months in jail

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

is there a difference between prison and jail?

[–] LodeMike 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sort of. Jail is where people not privileged enough to afford bail await trial. And sometimes lesser sentences like if they're under a year or in relation to a misdemeanor are served.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

so jail is just a temporary imprisonment?

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Short-term is probably a better description. Although, sometimes people get forgotten in jail and spend years waiting for trial

[–] LodeMike 8 points 1 week ago

"Forgotten"

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[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

jail is where they'd put you to dry out, sober up, hopefully behave yourself. lots of old movies make jail seem comically quaint. I myself have been released from the lockup "on my own recognizance" or some such, basically means they didn't want the expense of keeping me there, plus I agreed in writing to show up for the court date.

prison doesn't have to mean federal time, could be a big scary state prison, but you get there from doing felonies. and the felony could be just weed, like you had a garbage bag full of it and shared it with friends.

I have been incarcerated in jail several times, and once I went to a maximum security prison to do some work. Jail was by far scarier, and not because I was locked up necessarily. Just the people there. A lot of them were fucking unhinged. Hanging off railings screaming like howler monkeys. Everyone in prison was very polite, they were making a community soup, just hanging out, visiting each other's cells.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The difference between killing a noble vs. killing a group of peasants.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

allegedly killing a noble

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And he killed a CEO, not a billionaire.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Ruling class. He might not have been a billionaire but still deserved it.

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[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

Yes. College students are 5 cents a dozen. They're useful to extract mortgage interest but they're still 5 cents a dozen.

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[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well of course, half the nation would get together to spring Luigi, but no one's gonna come for a Nazi fuck face.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

FR Luigi had a crowd waiting outside.

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[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Alright, but arrest him in a way that doesn't make him look like a master-mind modern Robin Hood."

"Damn."

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Luigi’s trial appearance had a shitload if protestors and threats associated with it. Luigi has people threatening to break him out, kill him, and or disrupt court. And all of that is happening in a massive sea of people.

That’s why security is much much higher.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

Kill him? Who? The fucking Romans again?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

No, it isn't.

It's higher for Eric Adams' photo ops.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Devil's advocate here, nobody wants to break the serial killer out.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

You'd be surprised but yes

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Yeah, Eric Adam's did this to send a message, but I don't think he realized what the message was or how it would be received.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

TBH does this really reflect on the justice system or the size of the perp's fan club?

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Alright, yes, the Justice system is clearly overreacting to one type of murder over the other, yes. But, just for clarity, those armed guards are not there to maintain control of Luigi like he is a super villain that could take down 10 men with his bare hands. And they are not just there to send a message to the public (although it can't be ruled out that there may be a conscious component of that going on). But they are there because his incarceration is high profile with a lot of supporters who might wish to attack the guards to free him AND a lot of people who might wish to hurt him becuase of the political symbol he has become. It could definitely be argued that the other guy should be as big of a deal, but he just isn't as high profile, so the risk is way lower there.

[–] StarshotJohn@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Then why transport him so publicly in the first place? Walking down the port for all to see isn't very low key..

Idk. I'm not aware of the transport too of the situation or the route. The other guy is being walked in public too.

[–] DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they were concerned wouldn't they have him in a kevlar vest?

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

When I first saw that Luigi Mangione photograph, I thought "damn, that guy's about to drop the hottest rap album of 2025."

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don’t understand how his right to a speedy trial is not being violated. He’s been in jail for how long and they still haven’t issued a ruling. Our justice system is fucked

Bruh, have you seen the court system? Trials could take years before it even begins.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 week ago

Lots of people don't get anything resembling a speedy trial in the US.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if your meme is topical to current events, it helps to post a reference

was it this one? https://www.cnn.com/us/idaho-student-killings-timeline/index.html

no that was 2022, this is bleak and fucked. I don't want to sift through stories about kids getting killed.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, you're correct. Based on the names under the kid's faces in the meme, they are referring to the Moscow, ID killings.

Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Ethan Chapin and Xana Kernodle were students at the University of Idaho who lived at a nearby off-campus residence in Moscow, a college town of about 25,000 people.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

I lived in Moscow a few times. Now everyone knows about the place "oh Moscow, that's where that quadruple homicide happened yeah?" And that's literally all they know about it lol. For anyone curious part of why it was such big news is because murders don't happen too often there, like one every 5-10 years, so for it to be a quadruple is bonkers. It's the kind of town where people don't lock their houses before going to work, they leave their cars unlocked with keys in ignition to stop in a grocery store, if your bike is stolen you'll find it a few blocks away, and it's not uncommon for young kids to wander around alone because the community generally looks after them

Protect the money at ALL cost.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Moscow Idaho is a small college town that only has 35 pigs on staff it looks like. It would be a city wide event to move them in a comparable way, they'd be importing pigs from surrounding towns

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