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[–] tal 31 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

In 2023, 60% of UK households had a smart speaker, up from 22% before the pandemic.

Jesus Christ. I had no idea so many people were buying these things. That's astounding.

If you'd asked me to guess what percentage of households had one, I'd have guessed single digits.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago

I got several free from both google and amazon. My electric company gave me one too.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

What is the absofuckingworstly scariest thing about this is that I've personally read quite a few sci-fi books, like in half of them, like in any universe, such things were usually a Trojan horse by the threat of the week to exterminate the good guys, or at least Palpatine's way of spying, or whatever.

OK, Palpatine's coolest microphone was decorative trees with skin changing colors depending on vibrations, and a very complex system of restoring the sounds from image, if I remember that correctly, in one X-Wing book.

So how the hell does it happen that such things are presented in movies and books and series like a threat, and yet people buy them?

I can believe in people loving touchscreens because touchscreens were unfortunately popularized in Star Trek and even, sigh, Star Wars prequels, and everything sci-fi.

But this is something that was being recommended against in such media for decades.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 43 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The most concerning part about this article is that they put one in their nine-year-old's bedroom.

[–] tal 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Based on the article, it lets her ask them things that she doesn't want to ask her parents, though I'm not sure that if I were 9 years old that I'd suddenly want to discover that my parents have a list of everything I've asked it and are reading through it, much less that Amazon has a database.

[–] brot@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, that is a terrible violation of trust. A parent should stop listening when they find out that they have a copy of such conversations of their child. They shouldn't write a newspaper article with citations about it

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, that's a terrible idea.

[–] stevo887@lemmings.world -5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Why?

Edit: No one answers the question yet downvotes me for asking a simple question that wasn’t clearly answered in the article. That article really didn’t say anything outside of Amazon documents every prompt ever.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Because they have no idea why not to. Despite having written the article explaining that clearly.

[–] stevo887@lemmings.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Must have missed the part where the article explained anything clearly other than Amazon documents all your prompts.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] stevo887@lemmings.world -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That it’s listening and remembering when I talk to it? That’s not exactly spying on us.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

A couple of days later, I received an email containing links to gigabytes of information: particulars of every purchase I’ve ever made – from the noir novel I bought on the day that Amazon UK launched to the 28th pair of headphones acquired in as many years. Records of every page turn of every Kindle ebook I’ve opened, every moment of Prime content I’ve watched, measured by the second. And, of course, the details of every interaction we have ever had with our Echo; every question asked, every song requested, every timer set.

They don’t make it easy to find gold among the fields of data available for download.

That’s exactly what it is.

[–] stevo887@lemmings.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Was there any indication that it was listening outside of being prompted? That’s just an assumption and would be no different than the phone we all have in our pockets most of the day.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 78 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I cannot comprehend people who agree to have a spy in their own home and they even pay for the privilege.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I have a theory that they understand this is wrong, but also feel the social pressure (ads work this way, remember), and thus decide to go all way in, in the most absurd ways, fully, to suppress their feeling of doing a stupid thing.

OK, not a theory, rather my experience with starting to use an Android phone

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 0 points 3 hours ago

Next up: 2+2=5

[–] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 hours ago

I asked my google home the same question and it told me that I told it that my dog is a good girl 3 times. I know it's not great for privacy, but it made me chuckle.

[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Its kinda depressing that the takeaway they seem have here is "we don't always have enough time for our family, but luckily Alexa can pick up the slack 😌"

Instead of "society pushes us to spend less time making meaningful connections and more time relying on services that cost you money or privacy"

Somebody's toddler is going to eat rocks after AI tells them it's safe, especially if you're giving your kids unfettered access to the internet, which is what Alexa is. You're just hoping Jeffy moderates good, when you and I both know rules and restrictions for an LLM are very hard to enforce.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

I was thinking about their horrifying conclusion as well, and your comment made me pine for the days when you wouldn't know something. Think about it, back before the internet, if you had a random question, you either had to interact with some trusted person, or you went to the library and looked it up. It's like the ever-present access to all information has quelled or killed any notion of curiosity or boredom, and it's within those frames of mind that learning and inspiration come. I remember as a kid when I wouldn't know the answer to something, I'd think on it for days, weeks. I'd get stuck on a video game level, and hit my head against the wall for hours trying to overcome it, only to pick up a random gamer magazine off the rack at the mall, and read the solution. Treating that magazine like it was the lost treasure map of some ancient expedition, passing it around my group of friends... Interactions and experiences that are gone forever.

The idea that we've gradually went from relying on trusted professionals, learned educators, and scientific rigor, replacing them with a corporations data-harvesting LLM, on-line influencers, and click-bait "journals" cosplaying as academic centers with integrity. This article is basically celebrating the fact that we've off-shored all of our thinking, curiosity, and inquisitiveness to machines, all the while we struggle for scraps in a corporation dominated life devoid of genuine human interaction. We're all to busy sipping dopamine hits from a screen instead of actually living our lives.

I grew up while the internet was being slowly rolled out, and being from the last generation to remember what it was like before the internet, I can say that the things I miss most are privacy, the ability to be bored, and not knowing.

It's worse now, and it's harder everyday to imagine that life on this planet will improve.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

So it's exactly the same as before the Echo, then. Welcome to the human condition.