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Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

smoking

gay

Amazon

conspiracy

racism

mental health

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 96 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It is now no longer social suicide to not drink.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sometimes I forget that smoking is a thing, and then (after sometimes a whole year) I see someone doing it, and I’m like, “woah, people still smoke.” It was everywhere when I was a kid—even inside restaurants.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“Nonsmoking section” that wasn’t even a separate room, just a half wall divider 🫠

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Lol, in my tiny ass hometown it was just tables without ashtrays.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 89 points 1 week ago (22 children)

From an American perspective, flying on an airplane sucks. 9/11/01 resulted in a whole bunch of security theatre at the airport and airlines have slowly whittled away whatever comfort or convience remained.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Remember being able to walk people to their gate, hug them goodbye, and watch the plane leave? Now you can only do this if you’re taking an unaccompanied minor to their gate.

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[–] hypna@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (6 children)

When I was in high school, gay was the generic negative word. If Wendys gave you a medium fry when you ordered a large - gay. If your homie cancelled plans last minute - gay. If you slipped on the stairs and busted your ass - gay. It's bizarre in hindsight.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kids are still mean, they just use different words now

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[–] Kattiydid@slrpnk.net 64 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I grew up in the farm-y outskirts of a big-ish city. I got to catch lizards and tadpoles and toads in the creek nearby, and we'd collect reeds from cattails and weave them into little mats for fun. we'd walk/bike to our friends house without parents, just yell that your going to so and so's and off you trot. We knew the farmer who grew the sweet corn we ate all summer, and the farmers who had the peach orchard and tomato fields we'd harvest from at the end of summer to can cheap produce for the winter.
The foothills behind our neighborhood were covered with grass and shrub, spattered with bike trails and caves right up to the tree line. There were foxes and racoons that you'd need to protect your chickens from. Deer would chill in our yard in fall eating the fallen Apples from around our trees. Flocks of starlings covered our huge cottonwood trees making a huge racket and pooping everywhere. I'd take a metal baseball bat to our big metal clothesline post to make a big gong noise to scare them off cuz they were so loud.

Then a fence went up, blocking us from using the hills, and they started construction on a bunch of high end mc mansions. They filled in the caves, killed the foxes and racoons, and paved over the creek to make a walking trail. More and more deer ended up as roadkill till they stopped coming to eat the apples altogether. Developers bought out the farmers to build more houses, first the tomato fields, then the corn, and finally the peaches were ripped out and paved over. The dairy became a giant strip mall for a Staples, and a Kohl's, a donut shop and a sandwich shop. The road I walked alongside, barefoot, to play in the creek became too busy to be safe for kids to walk next to.

In summer we'd play outside and drink from the hose till we were too hot, then we'd run inside and stand under the swamp cooler to cool down. Year after year it got hotter and hotter till the heat was too much and we couldn't play outside for too long because the swamp cooler wasn't enough to cool us down anymore. In winter we used to make snow men and build igloos with buckets full of snow as bricks, and we'd trample paths into the snow drifts that came up to our hips. But year after year the snow banks got shorter and shorter and the snow came later and later until... I remember the first year we had no snow till after Christmas. The decorations looked so sad and stupid sitting on brown grass instead of coated with bright snow. That's the last year I bothered to put them up. The more people moved to the area, the thicker the smog got in the winter. All the stagnant stinky car exhaust and fumes from the refinery got caught in the bowl of the valley all winter, till the hazy air was so dense you couldn't see the mountains that surrounded us.

The world got hotter and more full of cars and houses all while the people got more stranded inside. Yes by the lure of Internet, but also to try to escape the heat and dust and smog. New neighbors in the big houses would snap at us to get off their lawn then smile like they gave a fuck the next Sunday at church.

Neighborhoods full of community became individuals in houses.

I'm only 34.

[–] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

This is beautifully written, but also painfully familiar.

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[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We used to take for granted that everybody agreed Nazis and Russians were bad.

Nothing against Russians suffering under Putin's boot. We have a whole new sympathy for you now.

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've noticed an increase in noticing other people being not well, but a decrease in the depth that people care. It used to feel that you might have one or two friends who cared about you deeply. They'd drop everything to help and wouldn't ask for anything in return. Now it seems like everyone cares about everyone but not enough to actually do anything.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's more like everyone is literally at their limit for taking care of themselves and literally has no energy leftover for others.

I think this is purposeful to socially divide us.

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

Yeah.

We had twins nearly 2 years ago.

I never really expected "help" but when we were pregnant there were people coming over every day telling us how much they were going to help. My wife has a huge social group, it was kinda overwhelming.

Since they were born, there's been 1 person who has just been amazing. She's here for a few hours several times a week and just plays with the kids. She's been really consistent.

No one else really knows how to help I think. Or maybe they think everyone else is helping. Or maybe just doing their own thing (which is fine ofc).

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The death of appointment television.

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[–] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hats, almost completely removed from formal settings and now only in informal settings.

People have a much more rigid and accurate sense of time. You don't meet for lunch, you meet at 12pm on the dot. People don't wait for someone for half an hour, they wait like 5 minutes or so.

People talk much more openly about problems and their views. When I was young people didn't really talk about religion, politics, medical issues, and so on in public. Now people will tell you they are on an antidepressant or LGBT+ and be open about things.

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[–] naught101@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
  • People are way more free to talk about their mental health problems.
  • Climate change is part of mainstream awareness, most people want to see action on it.
  • Gays and lesbians are very broadly accepted in many parts of the world. Trans people are too (and they are more visible), even if there is also a culture war backlash.
  • Nearly everyone hates capitalism. Not everyone has figured out what needs to be done about it, but it's a good start.
  • Conspiracy thinking is more rampant, presumably because of internet (mis/dis)information bubbles

(I was born in the early 80s, so this is over the last 30ish years, since the mid 90s)

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In the states anyway, our sense of community has almost vanished. Rather than concerning ourselves with improving society, we have become a nation of de facto sovereign citizens, all of us competing with everyone else.

Even common courtesy has gone down the shitter. On the roads, at retail establishments, everything is a fight. Shove your way past everyone or you're weak.

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been arrested, held up at gun point, and spent a few weeks in a Texas jail in the 90s because I like smoking weed. Now I have 3 weed stores within 2 miles of me, and it's as mundane as buying a loaf of bread. So that's a positive in my book.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The circa 1990 nature of American society has been erased so completely that it is hard to believe how drastically it has changed.

Movies used to depict child molestation (Indiana Jones) or outright rape (Revenge of the Nerds) as normal and to be celebrated when it was done by the heroes. A lot of crimes got viewed through the lens of whether it was “our people” doing them. The thinking features in a lot of old movies.

The cops who beat Rodney King were found not guilty by a jury, in the first trial. After all, they’re the cops, they’re allowed. Drunk driving was fine, as long as you were one of the right kind of people. The cops would beat the fuck out of people and it was fine. The factory in town could be polluting the river and it was fine as long as dad had a job. And so on.

The uniformity of thought that TV enforced, before the internet, is really not well understood. If you thought Israel was bad, then you and Noam Chomsky were literally the only ones. Even as late in the arc as the Iraq War, I would say about 95% of the people who didn’t get their news from the internet supported the war. Watch one of the debates where Ron Paul was speaking against the war with everyone else (except the audience) just weirded out and confused by it, or the “Media-Opoly” short that aired on SNL once and then never again, to get some idea by contrast of how airtight the lock on narrative used to be. TV and newspapers are still kind of that way, but they don’t have the media monopoly they used to. It used to be that someone probably would live their entire adult life without ever hearing the kind of political viewpoints you see every day on Lemmy as normal things.

On the other hand, along with the expectation that everyone was kind of a piece of shit and that’s how life is, came a kind of backbone for resistance that I feel like is missing today. Woodstock ‘99 would be a pretty normal “yeah they robbed us” badly organized festival today. It was way better than the Fyre Festival, and people at Fyre just took it, or called their lawyers. At Woodstock ‘99, the kids threw bottles and batteries at Kurt Loder, broke in the ATMs and stole their money back, and then ripped the venue apart with their bare hands and burned it all to the ground.

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[–] DioramaOfShit@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kids don't play outside anymore

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[–] tal 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Outside of formal settings, I'd say that it's uncommon for women to wear skirts or dresses in day-to-day life now.

Menswear is considerably more casual. This is a trend that's been going for over a century or so, so it certainly didn't just happen during my life, but it did significantly change in that time.

[–] SelfHigh5@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I was a nurse in the US from 2015-2020 and in that time I saw one “old school” nurse who wore a white scrubs dress and white stockings/shoes. Every day that I saw her she was dressed this way so it wasn’t like for an event or something. Just working on the L&D floor. No hat though. Honestly no idea how anyone did the job of nursing in a damn dress anyway but they all did for a very long time before I was in the profession. Every time I saw her I was just jealous that she must not be cleaning up like, ANY shit where she works. For graduation we all wore the little hat, then that was the end of that forever.

[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No smoking indoors anymore. I remember when you could still smoke in a hospital. Then they limited it to just a "smoking lounge" on each floor. Followed eventually by a ban inside...to finally no smoking anywhere on hospital property.

Not to mention airplanes, restaurants and movie theaters.

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