it actively encourages the fascists. the entire ideology of fascism is ultimately a perverse power fantasy. pointing out that they are hypocrites feeds into that. yes, they know it and you can't stop them. no matter how contradictory or pointless their actions are you are unable to do anything about it. tell them about it again, lib. they are getting off on it.
this post was submitted on 27 May 2025
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I like it when they say the cruelty is the point because it really helps me understand what's happening.
I saw a tweet saying something along the lines of why can't we admit what we're seeing now is the same as Nazi Germany. And it pissed me off so much, because what difference would it make if it's admitted or not ? It's still a genocide being cosigner by both parties. We don't have to wait for them to tell us that
😭 they just want it said so they can “be right” lmao
"You call yourself pro-life, yet you just forced that group of prisoners to play Russian Roulette", said the liberal to the concentration camp guard.
Wait -- you're saying you can infer that if somebody insults the GOP they are liberals and not leftists? Because... if they toss an insult at the GOP that means they aren't really serious about stopping them?
to specify, i was talking about politics threads i see on reddit
OK, they are more liberal there as a rule. Fair enough. I still think it's not a great idea to single out behaviour of liberals that happens to be indistinguishable from that of leftists (generally complaining about the GOP online)
the behavior of liberals is very distinct from the behavior of leftists. there are no leftists acting this way because acting this way requires buying into the big lie that fascism has turned our reality into. no leftist is under the delusion that proving republicans are liars is going to do anything. because the thing about liars is, they lie. they don give a fuck. leftists understand that.
You are saying that people are rational enough to know that complaining won't accomplish anything. But it's cathartic, so we do it anyway, even if it accomplishes nothing. How can you deny that leftists complain about the GOP? I complain about the GOP. I consider myself somewhere between liberal and leftist, but closer to leftist. On lemmy I expect to be preaching to the choir though when I complain about the GOP.
I consider myself somewhere between liberal and leftist
Fucking hilarious
why so? I believe in many or most lefist perspectives but I find that most leftists also have common opinions I don't share. So I place myself in that range. My apologies for being impure.
liberalism is right wing. what does it even mean to be somewhere between right and left wing? you’re a centrist, a right leaning centrist who identifies with liberalism and thats why the shit you’re saying rn is so fucking wack. you’re not any type of leftist. which is whatever but you’re claiming to be one while also claiming to identify with fascism-lite. do you see why that doesnt make sense?
What you're saying makes sense. I guess the reason I call myself left-liberal is that I started with liberal values like "everyone's equal," "don't be a bigot," etc. and then reasoned my way toward more leftist stuff like marxism, trade unions, and so on. But those liberal values were more a default of how I was raised than anything else. In contrast, the liberalism of "protect billionaires' private property" I'm rather skeptical of.
But for instance, most leftists agree ACAB, which is surprising to me. I do think the police as an institution needs to be completely reimagined, but leftists are quite insistent that there literally aren't any good cops, since the good ones still cover for the bad ones. But I think that's a rather naïve way to look at things, since that ignores the chain of command. Similarly, leftists tend to scoff at "not all men," which I don't get -- honestly, a lot of the social justice movement bothers me, not in what it's trying to achieve, but rather because I think it needs to appeal to straight white men more to encourage more people to join in the revolution.
Where would you classify me, if not left-liberal?
there’s a difference between complaining and constantly pointing out obvious lies and hypocrisy like the lies and hypocrisy were supposed to be convincing in the first place. to do that it shows a lack of understanding of the situation we’re really in, it shows that they’re still bought into the big charade. thats why they all think voting is the solution to our problems. even while fascists openly set up the mechanisms to cancel elections they’re still talking about “in 4 years im gonna vote this motherfucker out so hard”
if liberals spent all day dunking on conservatives for being freaks and weirdos that would be cool at least. instead they just say “lol guess you dont really believe in small government” as tho anyone actually believed they did in the first place
The kind of insults I see, even on reddit, are quite varied and creative. I mean, trump is regularly called a rapist, which I think fits your freaks and weirdos definition. I don't see the harm in pointing out contradictions when they show up. It doesn't mean you don't also have other, worse words for them.
Not my fault that the liberals keep getting in the way when I'm punching right
liberals be leaping to the GOP's defense? I don't see that too much, except when the criticism applies equally to the libs.
Liberals leaping to the defense of the system that upholds the right, more like.
"I don't agree with u/gasthemall1488 but I will defend their right to say it to the death!"
"We must VOTE."
They simply do not understand that political power grows out the barrel of a gun.
valid.
Yeah it's not like US libs keep saying shit like "we need a strong GOP" or anything like that lmfao
