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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Online software development life cycle in a nutshell:

Startup - Geeks are in charge and you're creating a cool communications platform.
Mature - Accountants are in charge and you're gamifying ad clicks.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

discord orbs

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

americans LOVE enshittifications.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What a funny coincidence that I've heard about this discord alternative in a post just a couple before this one in feed.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oooh yeah, dust off the hotline auto clickers.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

The lesson of Pay-To-Surf will keep being taught by reality until it gets taught in business school.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

The end is coming

[–] MacStache@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

How in the hell has that app gone so far down? This must be a record in enshittification.

[–] dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, di$cord has definitely been speedrunning the deterioration of their platform.

It's a shame because they started as a darling of the gaming community with a lot of loyalty when people were switching to micro$hit like $lack and team$.

I guess capitalism and endless growth don't actual translate to improved products for the rest of us. Go figure.

It'll be nice when our species moves to decentralized platforms like Matrix, but every day we wait is another day I don't get to enjoy it.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well they changed CEOs a month ago

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mark my words, any free service that hosts images is on the cycle. I saw it happen to Reddit and Imgur

Promising to host everyone's data for free forever is a promise that only a devil at a crossroads can make

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Don't forget to tip your instance admins!

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I warned my friends that Discord is looking to go public. Just wait, it's going to get a lot worse.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know if you saw the news last month but Discord just replaced a founder with a former Activision-Blizzard exec as CEO.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Well that fucking sucks.

[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How do I bot this so I don't see the ads and get free nitro so ads are removed?

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

No need, use discord canary.

[–] LodeMike 51 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You know, I've seen this image at least 15 years ago and thought it was a joke.

Now that I'm older now, I'm guessing this is an actual diagram for implementing and perhaps patenting interactive commercials?

We literally reward people in our society for being as shitty as possible. Can we stop doing that?

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 142 points 2 days ago (28 children)

I admittedly haven't looked very hard for an alternative. But I fully expect to be forced to move elsewhere in the next year or two due to their increasingly belligerent chasing of profits.

[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

If you're after text, there are a number of options. If you're after group voice, there are a number of options. You could mix and match both, but "where everyone else is" will also likely be a factor in that kind of decision.

If you want both together, then there's probably just Element (Matrix + voice)? Not sure of other options that aren't centralised, where you're the product, or otherwise at obvious risk of enshittifying. (And Element has the smell of the latter to me, but that's another topic).

I've prepared for Discord's inevitable "final straw" moment by setting up a Matrix room and maintaining a self-hosted Mumble server in Docker for my gaming buddies. It's worked when Discord has been down, so I know it works. Yet to convince them to test Element...

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Same. I just hope my friend group and by some extension the gaming community chooses something that won't fall into the same pitfal of closed source for profit organizations.

I hope the transition is towards matrix, or something like it.

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[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wel there goes my discord account. Bye you won’t be missed

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Realistically tho, until participation becomes mandatory you can ignore quests and orbs and just keep doing what you're doing.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

"please ponder your verification orb"

Nah, switching takes time. Better start now.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] carp1@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Peter Sellis can take those Orbs and shove them up his Ass I don’t want this shit!

[–] viking@infosec.pub 22 points 2 days ago

Fuck this shit.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (5 children)

how good of an alternative is matrix to discord?

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not great. It's missing discord features like screen sharing and voice rooms (only sort of has them through a third party app, Jitsi, but that experience is... not great).

It also has moderation issues, lacking tools needed to keep spam out and easily control it when it does get in.

I recently deleted my account because there was a spam wave sending out room invites to anti-trans named rooms, and there's no way to mass ignore, you have to click on every invite, click 'ignore' and wait like 15-30 seconds for the server to process.

Related to the above it has performance issues, a lot of UI actions wait for the server to respond, so just have a long delay to them making the user experience feel really crummy.

There are also a bunch of different client apps all with their own features, one will support X but not support Y and the other way around for another app, and there's no guide on what app to use so that's confusing.

Overall it feels like alpha or very early beta software, it works if you're willing to deal with a lot of headache.

[–] dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 days ago

Matrix suffers from some pretty poor design decisions and implementations.

I expect its flaws to get ironed-out over the years, but right now people switching from discord to matrix will find their experience severely lacking.

To give some examples, video chatting is not as inuititive in matrix. You can't even test it on your own without being in a server with specific permissions that allow you to use your camera when nobody else is around. Really fucking stupid design decision.

Another example is the lack of channels. It's mind-boggling to me how they're not implemented yet. Matrix will never be competitive with discord until that changes.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not as feature rich, quite buggy, inherently more private but also less usable.

The above compounds when trying to get the non-techies to use it, because sometimes it doesn’t just work

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[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Chortle my orbs

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

enshittification is full force now

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago

Next thing you know the 'orbs' will be NFTs and we'll all be expected to grind away at their 'quests' (probably training AI) to earn 'real money'.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They truly have zero clue how users actually use their software. Not a single person is going to use this just like every other stupid gimmick feature they've added in the past and then promptly removed.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 75 points 2 days ago (7 children)

You couldn't be more wrong.

People actually use the shop. they are spending $10-20 on a profile picture border. Now you are telling them that they can get them for "free"? You bet people will do it. Paid cosmetics have poisoned minds.

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Users on reddit and lemmy always seem to think ad-based stuff is going to fail, and then it turns out people in the real world are depressingly accepting of ads. I would bet that this program is more likely to be expanded than canceled.

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

RIP Discord.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ (● ˃̶͈̀ロ˂̶͈́)੭ꠥ⁾⁾.

There is one community I’m active in on Discord, and it’s a very wholesome and positive one id hate to lose, but damn I’m hating Discord.

Is there a CLI Discord client for Linux? I could tolerate that.

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