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[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No we’re not lol

This AI shit is going to cause me to lose my sanity

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

yeah but it will generate something relatively coherent and people will certainly interpret it that way

anyway check out this video of my cat staring out a window - it has that look on its face with its eyes half-closed because I told it that it's in timeout, and not just because it's sitting in the warm sun looking out a window

pain

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i can translate anything a whale or any other animal says for a fee

good luck proving my translations false

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Pet Psychic did that and got a successful show on Animal Planet in the 00's so it's a good strategy

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

It is kind of amazing how the AI grift is rapidly going into the territory of every other grift at this point, I can't think of a common grift that someone hasn't tried to shove AI into.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 81 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

There was some stand up comedian who had a joke about how all dogs are basically just yelling "FUCK! FUCK!" All the time. There isn't really a bark that means "everything's chill"

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago

AI may soon be able to decode whalespeak

doubt

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

excited for when we get livestock pleading for help and people just ignore it

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

“You’re being anthropocentric. ‘It hurts, please help me!’ is actually a perfectly normal greeting in most animal cultures.”

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 days ago

Using magic to look into the future is cheating.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok look, they say "Please stop, I want to see my children" but does that really mean what a naïve interpretation would have us think? I mean it's not like they didn't scream before, I don't think this should move the needle on the extremely simple idea that:

Humans are uniquely endowed with some property that makes suffering meaningful, human emotions and thought can be influenced by the state of the brain but there is no transformation or variation of the brain that can remove the special endowment of meaningful emotional states short of utter destruction, other animals which may share similar brain structures or behaviours cannot have this meaningful suffering unless they are charismatic, even then they will always be secondary to arbitrary humans in concern because they lack special endowment, evolution has converged on extremely complex organs and patterns many times and includes many arrangements or systems which seem implausibly likely evolving dozens of times but it is utterly inconceivable that consciousness could also evolve earlier than humans or multiple times. Also bacon lol get wrecked.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just to make sure... you're pointing out how disgustingly ridiculous that idea is, right? (I'm not gonna use the Padme emoji here because its a genuine question). You're saying how hypocritical and absurd it is, despite its ubiquity and that carnists (especially the super smart reddit "rationalists") would nod in agreement?

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would hope that if someone says "the extremely simple idea that". Then follows with a run on sentence with 130 words and like a dozen hesitations it is obviously a satire.

I suppose carnists do write some dumb shit though when fencing with their own values.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well you got reported on for defending carnism, so it's not so obvious.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

I guess there's no level of obviousness that won't appear sincere to someone

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Lol, lmao even. Well probably better people have a hair trigger vs being lax with such a destructive ideology. A quick glance at my posting history should make it rather clear what I believe.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was pretty sure that was the case, but everything you said was literally the exact reasoning I've seen presented as a solid argument against veganism. Sadly even here on hexbear sometimes, people have expressed the staunch belief that human brains are uniquely and exclusively the only kind that deserve recognition for their suffering. /s tags shouldn't be needed ideally, but especially on certain topics and when an entire comment is sarcasm, it can be hard to know with 100% certainty that it wasn't serious. Especially for people with certain types of neurodivergence like me.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

All good, across cultures tone and humour doesn't always translate well. There is also a literacy crisis in most (all?) English speaking countries which isn't helping. Given it is now often difficult to tell whether someone's writing is intentionally awful, or that they were subject to a shitty education.

Carnist arguments are awful. My hope is that when you string them all together, a few people who might present them as rebuttals individually pause and notice the precarious structure they form.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Completely agreed. It sometimes amazes me how unable carnists, especially the ones who "love animals," are to recognize their blatant hypocrisy for what it is: cringy rationalizations to justify behavior they're unwilling to change. I'm glad at least that in leftist spaces like this, the concept of "self crit" is better understood and accepted as a good thing to do, something everyone needs to do if they have any hope of examining all the bullshit that "western culture" has ingrained into us.

(Also for the record, I wasn't the one who reported your comment. Like i said, I was pretty sure you were being sarcastic, just not 100% certain).

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

(Also for the record, I wasn't the one who reported your comment. Like i said, I was pretty sure you were being sarcastic, just not 100% certain).

Ah comrade, I shall take you off the list then :p

[–] VibeCoder@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

That was a hell of a doctor who episode

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 44% capacity. Action required. ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 43% capacity. Action required. ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 42% capacity. Action required. ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 41% capacity. Action required. ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 40% capacity. Action required.

[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The first whales they translate are chud whales so we learn about whale racism and assume it's normal for whalekind.

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago

Grok AI: the whales are singing "kill the Boer" actually

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

White Whale

kelly

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Whales seem to have vocalizations that follow the same complexities as human speech. I doubt most animals are capable of something as complex as that. Their research has been extremely promising, they even figured out how to call a wild whale to a research vessel to talk, and the whale circled the vessel and tried to speak to it more.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

The whale protracted people’s war nears ever closer.

[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago

we'll get extremely depressed

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

anakin-padme-2 so we can reckon with over a century of cruel treatment and make their lives more comfortable, right?

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

so we can train them and use them to make rich people richer!

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I bet cats have some wild slurs

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

That one weird bellowing howl my cat does when he's in the hallway alone is definitely some sort of swear

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The AI bubble will finally pop when someone convinces investors that they can teach rats to code.

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My new start up puts a million rats on keyboards and our proprietary AI that runs off a coal power plant the size of a city translates it into code! Play our new rat-made idle game with cute rat cosmetics we stole off deviantart!

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

proprietary AI that runs off a coal power plant the size of a city translates it into code!

Is there anyway to scam the investors so they think that's what's happening but we don't actually have any of the shit that destroys the planet?

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Ai generated pictures of the city-reactor

[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

They already did, we call em techbros

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

We hunt the non-vegans. (In a respectful way and make sure to use all their parts)

[–] D61@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

Animals: DON'T TRUST THE MUSHROOMS! KILL THEM ALL! KILLLL TTHHEEMMM AAALLLLL!!!

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Being able to define a grammar is a far cry from actually being able to assign meaning to individual sequences. Yeah, okay, they taught dolphins a word for "sargasso" but can you especially jump to someone's potato receiver arguably above an itemized "sargasso" but anything personable or are you just playing dolphin Mad Libs?

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Some indigenous groups believe they can already at the very least speak to animals with their native languages. It unfortunately doesn’t mean they can understand the animals.