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[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 79 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ohhhh....this provides much needed context & clarity that I didn't have before. When I hear there's been a 'shooting' in America, while this is technically correct, I don't think it's one person shooting another. I hear 'shooting', and I think one or more shooters/multiple targets/largely indiscriminate just one group vs another.

By all accounts, this is very discriminatory & targeted. Obviously. I would word it as "Jonathan Joss murdered", then explain he was gunned down by a deranged homophobe.

Until just now, I genuinely assumed Mr. Joss got caught up in a mall or gang shooting. This is especially tragic & inexcusable, such targeted hatred.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tbh, most "shootings" in America aren't active shooter events in the way you expect. Most are targeted and related to other crime (be it robbery, revenge, domestic assault, etc), some fit the definition of mass shooting (4 or more shot incl shooter) but it's gang/crime/drug related and often in those cases a bystander or two, more fall in that category than random mass shooter events by an order of magnitude.

The mass/school shootings you imagine are actually incredibly rare statistically, something like 0.00094% last time I checked. In fact even most "school shootings" are the same, with one or no people injured, and targeted. Or even accidental discharge with no injury by the school cop or a suicide in a recently shut down forever school at 3am in a car in the parking lot (real events counted in everytown's school shootings numbers a few years ago).

Hate crimes are for sure more common, actually.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 186 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Meanwhile, Texas cops say no evidence of a hate crime.

As if the whole country isn’t tacitly approving of this by embracing hate and apathy.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago

The only good Republican is a dead Republican.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

This is fucking crazy... How's this NOT a hate crime? Did the fucking perp say "it's not a hate crime cuz i loved doing it" and they said "fair enough?" Wtaf

[–] tatann@lemm.ee 53 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Texas, the Islamic State of America

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

The entire US of A was founded on slavery and indigenous genocide. Not just the hillbilly bumpkin parts, not just the ones that vote for the party you don't like. And Muslims carry none of the blame for that, neither do the indigenous people (like the victim here) or other POC that live in the red states yet get cast out to die whenever smarmy liberals decide to score some points by dunking on their fellow settlers.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Ah yes christian terrorism, very islamic.

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

What are we a bunch of muslims???

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MBech@feddit.dk 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"Y'all-Qaeda" was never a joke, but a very fitting name for these religious lunatics.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 93 points 2 days ago

God fucking damn it. I am so sick of this shit.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 30 points 2 days ago

Jonathan Joss 15m

Statement from Tristan Kern de Gonzales

Husband of Jonathan Joss

My husband Jonathan Joss and I were involved in a shooting while checking the mail at the site of our former home. That home was burned down after over two years of threats from people in the area who repeatedly told us they would set it on fire. We reported these threats to law enforcement multiple times and nothing was done.

Throughout that time we were harassed regularly by individuals who made it clear they did not accept our relationship. Much of the harassment was openly homophobic.

When we returned to the site to check our mail we discovered the skull of one of our dogs and its harness placed in clear view. This caused both of us severe emotional distress. We began yelling and crying in response to the pain of what we saw.

While we were doing this a man approached us. He started yelling violent homophobic slurs at us. He then raised a gun from his lap and fired.

Jonathan and I had no weapons. We were not threatening anyone. We were grieving. We were standing side by side. When the man fired Jonathan pushed me out of the way. He saved my life.

Jonathan is my husband. He gave me more love in our time together than most people ever get. We were newlyweds. We picked Valentines Day. We were in the process of looking for a trailer and planning our future.

He was murdered by someone who could not stand the sight of two men loving each other. I was with him when he passed. I told him how much he was loved.

To everyone who supported him, his fans, his friends, know that he valued you deeply. He saw you as family.

My focus now is on protecting Jonathan's legacy and honoring the life we built together.

If your concern is how someone coped with trauma or how loudly they speak when recounting injustice and being ignored by authorities then you never truly cared about my husband.

Jonathan saved my life. I will carry that forward. I will protect what he built.

Tristan Kern de Gonzales

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago

This is PROOF that Cops PROTECT people and that GAYS are the Problem and NOT the people who LITERALLY MURDERED SOMEONE FOR BEING GAY AFTER THE COPS KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN BUT CHOSE TO IGNORE IT!

[–] midori@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago

This is fucking horrible.

[–] match@pawb.social 50 points 2 days ago

i am hot with rage actually

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (22 children)
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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If your concern is how someone coped with trauma or how loudly they speak when recounting injustice and being ignored by authorities then you never truly cared about my husband.

I don't even want to know what this part is in response to.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Have the assailants been arrested or revenged? Some good guy with a gun gonna kill these criminals?

[–] yuri@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i actively avoid texas whenever i have to drive cross country. i’ve gone as much as 4 hours out of my way. every time they threaten to secede i hope TO GOD they go through with it.

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[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 days ago

What the fuck

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

Sounds like they were gangstalked.

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