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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 114 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.

It's not a fucking immigration protest. They didn't deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it’s no longer an “immigration protest”. It’s a NAZI protest.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 143 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Funny how he doesn't hesitate here, but when Congress was literally in danger of being fucking lynched on Jan 6, he didn't do shit.

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Only because Republicans despise California and Californians with all of their being.

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[–] refract@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

If you don't own a gun, its time to get one, regardless of your stance on them. This is martial law without having to call it that.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gavin Newson specifically said that he did not ask for or need the 2,000 troops and that sending to LA would only make things worse.

Sooo, there’s that.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Legally I believe the National Guard must be mobilized for a legal reason and until Trump has identified an actual cause, he cannot mobilize them himself. So Newson should just order them to stand down.

Newson hasn't done that though.

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

yup. next stop: martial law.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 day ago

2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn't want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 289 points 2 days ago (11 children)

“The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior …”

Dude that’s your entire administration. Have some self-awareness, you orange, sagging, coffin dodging oxygen thief.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 216 points 2 days ago (14 children)

It has begun. Trump unleashing the army against the population fighting against his gestapo.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There is a good reason not to follow unconstitutional orders.

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[–] damdy@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is actually insane. Bringing tanks to a knife fight... except it's not even a knife fight it's a thumb war. This is going to cause country wide rioting and Trump's only recourse will be to further up the anti. I feel worried for you guys.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago (9 children)

This is all predictable. By next summer, besides more immigration crimes, we'll have food and product shortages, massive tariff-driven inflation, an economy roiling over his constant market manipulation, Luigi's trial, arrests of prominent politicians and resistors, etc. There will be protests against all of these issues and more, and he will use those protests to stir up trouble and create violence.

By next summer it will get really ugly, and he'll declare Martial Law, and suspend the Midterm election, so he can preserve his Congressional majorities.

Without Skum to rig the election, he will have no choice but to go with the Martial Law option.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 132 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 110 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that's not going to solve this. It's just going to start a true resistance.

There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.

As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that's when they kill them.

All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.

The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses

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[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many fakes are in the crowd manipulating the situation for the oppositions political gain?

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. And it's always these guy who are agitating for violence and "burning shiat down" and nobody can remember who this guy is or exactly when he joined the group.

They're called, "agents provocateurs" (google them. They're nothing new). They are government plants whose job is to start shit in peaceful protests to give the government an excuse to crack down violently.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They will provoke innocent people to become criminals. Remember their job is a business too. They play the game for money like gangsters.

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[–] HorseTesselator@midwest.social 103 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (24 children)

Maybe a bit of a hot take, but I think Trump is also doing this at least partly to distract from his spat with Musk's Epstein implications. Not to mention Trump's upcoming parade. Also, keep in mind that 2,000 Nat'l guard troops is surprisingly low, especially for an area the size of L.A. In '92 they brought in almost 10,000.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous about this, too, but personally I believe people need to keep their cool, here. I'm seeing a lot of doom spiraling and panicking all over the place online and we need to be mindful of how this affects us mentally and emotionally.

We're in the long game.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Yeah, this is fucking depressing. Anyone wanna fight about Linux distros?

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