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Trump deploys troops to crush dissent — and escalate his war on America (www.rawstory.com)
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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

18 U.S. Code § 2381

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

We need to bring back of some of this "law and order", there's a traitor right there within the executive branch.

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 day ago

More than one

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

there's a traitor right there within the executive branch

Within the executive? I think this time around it’s pretty safe to say the entire executive branch is an enemy organization within the government.

For the first Trump term sure, maybe a bunch of them were just innocent regular republicans who only want to hurt the people who “deserve” it. You know, wrong skin color, wrong balance sheet balance, wrong bloodline, the usual violations… But anybody there now cannot pretend like they don’t support the dismantling of our form of government.

…ok sure of course they can pretend. Delusion and dodging cognitive dissonance is like breathing for them. But they sure can’t deny it— shit wait yes they can and it will work. Never mind!

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 1 day ago

The military should have refused the orders and arrested the Orange Jackass.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 136 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is the point that will be referenced in history books as the beginning of the second civil war.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 93 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As if Americans won’t roll over and accept this as normal just as they have for every other batshit betrayal of their principles that’s taken place this century.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 63 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There is a point where people can't roll over and accept it. It's going to be when food and water scarcity becomes wider spread.

The goal for the last century was to reduce the ability for people to be self-sufficient and make them entirely reliant on an employer. When people can no longer rely on their employer for basic needs, things get fucky.

You gotta remember Americans are irrational, and largely unpredictable. In the long run, the goal of the regime will fail, but not before doing significant damage.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In 1933, many Germans also thought that things would not get that horrible. The established centrist parties believed they could keep Hitler under control - as did business leaders, unless they had already made arrangements with the Nazis to secure even greater profits. We all know how that turned out.

But since no one seems to learn from history, the danger of fascism is once again being underestimated today.

What I'm trying to say is: fight back while you still can! If this doesn't happen soon and in an organized way, it will be too late and history will repeat itself.

I think that's pretty likely, when I read comments like that. I just don't think the majority of US citizens are aware of what it means to live in a dictatorship: For the rest of the world, not much will probably change, but it certainly will for those Americans who are not on the side of the fascists.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What I’m trying to say is: fight back while you still can! If this doesn’t happen soon and in an organized way, it will be too late and history will repeat itself.

Except it won't, because this time there's no external superpower to save us from ourselves.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

What about China?

It's not as if the US won World War II on its own. That may be what they teach in your schools, but in fact, the losses suffered by your former ally, the USSR, were many times higher.

Of course, it's possible that Trump will come to an arrangement with Russia, especially because he obviously has the same interests as Putin - but the fact is that China is the new world's super power.

Feel free to dismiss that as my opinion, but it's actually true. The US may still be the strongest military power, but economically it has been overtaken by China. That's why Trump's import tariffs have little effect on the Chinese - it's a power game in which the US is coming up short.

Edit: Sorry, I just reread my comment and realized how arrogant and patronizing it is. I'll leave it up anyway. Please overlook the arrogance and just consider the statement - sorry!

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

The bigger issue is nukes I think. You cannot overthrow a regime militarily these days, countries have simply a tool that is far too destructive to realistically risk it

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[–] delgato@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago

John Brown has been on my mind a lot, truly one of the greatest Americans to live, and he aptly said after Harper’s Ferry “I am quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think vainly, flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.”

[–] 1984 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It will say something like:

"The twitter wars. Millions of people posted comments on social media and upvoted posts, and were shocked when it changed absolutely nothing."

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Even martial law doesn't allow him to deploy the military on American soil.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This ia what they have been waiting for.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Don’t forget that Donny’s having a birthday military parade coming up. We need to show up and sound off. If he wants America to be great we need to show how great we are against him and this regime.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tomatoes, lots of tomatoes...

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know tacos are more expensive than tomatoes, but it would be way funnier

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Don’t waste tacos on Trump, throw a wrapped up dog turd in TP and call it a taco. We eat tacos after, wash your hands before please.

[–] Bravo@eviltoast.org 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

He'll take long-distance photos of the crowds so you can't see the slogans on the picket signs, and he'll spin it as "look at how many people turned up for my parade!"

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Or shoot them.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes. The best thing that could happen would be for no one to show up

Edit: fix typo

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Especially the military. He needs to be shown that the armed forces will not be his personal vendetta machine, nor his personal anything

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Guess we all need smoke grenades

[–] dinren@discuss.online 84 points 2 days ago (4 children)

8647

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm an advocate for the French spelling, 420647

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[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Those 77.3 million Trump voters must be loving all this.

It's a shame they aren't rounded up and shipping off somewhere.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Some are, the latinos...

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump voters just want to see people they don’t like being hurt. That’s pretty much it. The boot on their opponent’s neck and inflict pain until they submit. They’re all about punishment.

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Republican voters see the choice as:

  1. Wear the boot
  2. Be under the boot

Sane people ask, "do we really need to stomp necks?"

And Democratic leadership asks if the boots really need to be steel tip.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That last sentence is painful.

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It really is, but my hope for positive change is in the goddamn toilet anymore.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 days ago

[–] altphoto 2 points 1 day ago

Gotta pass that big beautiful bill somehow... Human hostages...

[–] altphoto 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Taliban are jealous. Imagine, the Taliban never touched American soil. But the president is putin boots on the ground. Against Americans!

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We cannot be silent in the face of Trump’s dictatorial move. Silence is acquiescence. We must be brave in resisting him. But we must not succumb to violence.

What is needed is peaceful civil disobedience. Americans locking arms to protect those who need protection. Americans sitting in the way of armored cars. Americans singing and chanting in the face of the Americans whom Trump is drafting into his handmade civil war.

Because peaceful civil disobedience definitely wont be met by force with 0 repercussions

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

I honestly do not believe anything short of violent revolt will achieve any results. I am happy to be proven wrong as someone who isn't really keen on that, but I just don't see it.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, you guys have guns. Time to use them what your founding fathers want you all to use them for, if it comes to it.

[–] LonstedBrowryBased@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago

Russian scum

[–] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

War on America? You guys realized that you have oil of your own and don't need to invade other countries anymore?

[–] Atropos@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're joking, but accurate with the recent push to start drilling in our national parks :(

[–] exixx@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

The US produces the most oil of any country in the world, for several years now if I remember right

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This could be the American Reichstag.

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