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[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 139 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Oh yes the Chinese Communist Party, the cake and eat it too party, where it somehow is able to access global markets and benefit from international trade rules, freely able to meddle in international affairs while embellishing its own interests.

It's mind blowing how the desperation of late stage capitalism allows the CCP to operate within these frameworks.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 104 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this specific case, Apple axed the show because Stewart was going to talk about China's less savory behavior.

The show had been announced to have a third season, and then suddenly when Stewart was gearing up to tackle some of the issues around China, Stewart was instantly fired.

And this isn't the first time China had demanded the firing, or public apology, of a prominent American who is even slightly critical of their government.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hollywood-corporations-apologize-to-china

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-brief-history-of-corporate-apologies-to-china-2019-10-09

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 73 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good ole Zhong Xina

Edit: "chili sauce"

[–] ChewTiger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Lol I'm going to call it that too. Taiwan #1!

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

John Cena makes a ton of money from China and so does the WWE. Not to mention the toys are made in China. Vince and Cena weren't about to lose that manufacturing deal over some dumb shit.

Calling the Chinese mainland West Taiwan is like calling the northern US "The North Confederate States of America." They lost a civil war and saying that is just silly. As for One China, that's a current battle of internal politics. The current ruling democratic party supports cutting ties with China and joining the West. The nationalist party agrees that the mainland and China are one country. It's not like it's just China imposing it's military might on Taiwan, it's much more complicated than that.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't do it because it's accurate, but because it pisses off the CCP. About the same time as John Cena showed his lack of spine, I was forced to figure out how to remove the flag of Taiwan from software because just seeing that flag makes them butthurt. Just a tiny icon of a flag of a nation they don't think is real.

That sort of vehement denial of reality is pathetic and hilarious, and I will continue to call them West Taiwan until they stop acting like whiny bitches. But in reality, they'll attempt to invade and throw a generation of their children into a meat grinder in the Taiwan Strait because of their ridiculous nationalism.

And they didn't resolve the civil war. If they had, the CCP wouldn't have zero authority there. And they wouldn't be complain so much about a flag.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think they'll invade. I think they're stalling until they can get their microchip tech up to speed and then they'll turn Taiwan into the next Cuba and just embargo the fuck out of Taiwan. Invading would be incredibly stupid.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Embargoing Taiwan won't work, either, because they have solid trade relationships with many modern economies.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

China accounts for a quarter of Taiwan's trade. Not to mention how many countries would bail if an embargo happened

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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Corporations would do literally anything for their "mah quarterly profits and mah shareholders".

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously, people need to keep this in their mind at all times. Every single publicly traded company in the world would happily throw a bus full of children into a volcano if it got them a fraction of a point in next quarter's numbers.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Yet people still defend the system that enables these greedy fucks, as if greedy fucks don't exist and corporations will toootally work in a logical manner...

Peoples' hubris toward the evils of their neighbors will be the death of humanity. Someone who fires a bunch of people to save money isn't a "boss making hard decisions" They're an asshole throwing people away to protect profit.

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[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you described every superpower.

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[–] Nusm@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d be more impressed if Congress was under scrutiny for their ties to China. And Russia. And Saudi Arabia.

[–] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Brb investigating the public toilet for poop stains lol

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just surprised it was the Republicans to back Stewart up.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's an aspect to Jon they like.. Or at least use to their own advantage.

Jon tends to be pretty hard on China. Remember the controversy over his off-the-cuff comments as Colbert's guest about covid and China?

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

China makes the hardware, I thought this was common knowledge. Of course they have Apple by the balls

[–] Buelldozer 18 points 1 year ago

It's not the manufacturing that Apple is scared of losing, it's the Chinese market itself. There's over a billion people in China and Apple makes a lot of money selling them Phones and iPads.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

Apple manufacturing moved a lot out of China. China still has a lot of the raw materials they need, and in quantities they need them, but recently Apple knows it needs to be faborable to them especially right now, if for nothing else to preserve the Chinese market share they currently have and try and keep relationships amicable post manufacturing move.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's no such thing as a few market, never was. they fooled you

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[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How do lawmakers demand something that isn't a law?

[–] Aracnid@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anyone can demand anything

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

They can request anyone to show up and speak about an issue, doesn’t mean anyone is required to answer them

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would hope China has an equivalent. Competition like this in science and arts only elevates humanity. It's military competition we have to be careful of.

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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cook must have a CCP handler sitting next to him at all times, handing out approval or disapproval from Emperor Xi

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