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“As a Christian, I don't think you can be both MAGA and Christian,” one person wrote in the comments of the video.

Two weeks ago, Jen Hamilton, a nurse with a sizable following on TikTok and Instagram, picked up her Bible and made a video that would quickly go viral.

“Basically, I sat down at my kitchen table and began to read from Matthew 25 while overlaying MAGA policies that directly oppose the character and nature of Jesus’ teachings,” she told HuffPost.

In the comments of the video ― which currently has more than 8.6 million views on TikTok ― many (Christians and atheists alike) applauded Hamilton for using straight Scripture as a way of offering commentary. Others picked a bone with Christians who uncritically support Trump.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

I wish Christians in red states were Christians.

I’ve taken to begging churches in my state to investigate the states systemic refusal to investigate the physical and sexual abuse of children. I’ll see if our “Christians” believe in the words of Christ.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So, which one keeps giving it septic tanks full of dead babies?

And why the fuck do we tolerate this shit existing when that's the benign version?

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

I'll tell you exactly why these trump supporting Christians don't realize this, it's because most of them don't actually think critically about what's actually in the Bible. They have piss poor media literacy, and their example of Christianity is what their probably racist parents and community instilled into them. That's how my father is.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

I'm just glad people can tell the difference between Christ and Trump, the beast of revelation

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

MAGA is a cult. There's nothing Christian about it.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hahahha american christianity is schisming

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

To be fair, the schisms have been occurring for like 200 years.

[–] damdy@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

I read about this story today and looked her up. Why do so many people watch her content? I genuinely couldn't get through more than 30 seconds of anything she's posted. Not that she's a bad person, and I hold nothing against her personally, but it's just utterly uninteresting to boredom. Like photos of food but of people.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 51 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

They (Christian MAGA) don't care. I have a family member I shared this verse, and many others with, and they only got angry at me. This was months ago.

They simply don't care. Not about what Jesus said, and not about any of us.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 19 points 14 hours ago

It's always best to address stuff like this with a very wide grin and say "Ah, it's good to know that for all your self-righteousness and false piety, you will burn in hell, and Jesus will weep knowing his sacrifice meant nothing to you. Ta!"

You don't even need to believe it, it just really gets under people's skin. Fuck 'em.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 26 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

My brain is still as broken as my relationship with my father when he looked me straight in the eyes and told me that yes, Jesus would be ok putting kids in cages.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 180 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (18 children)

I always laugh when I hear shit like this, there is an old german saying my father taught me. "When there are 9 Nazis at a table, and you go sit with them, there are 10 Nazis at the same table".

If you are sharing the same church with them then you are sharing the same ideology. Start kicking these maga fucks out of your churches and I might start believing you.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 45 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a crying shame that I’ve had to do the same with some of my extended family. They’ve gone ultra MAGA and I’m sorry I cannot support you when you want to harm others.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 43 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I lost a childhood friend to the MAGA cult. It sucks, I knew him since elementary school. He slowly became angrier, then he one day was just all out hateful saying the most vile hateful crap he could and I just cut ties completely.

The stupidest part is I heard through someone else that "he has no idea why I wont talk to him". I didn't ghost him, I told him to his face on my way out his door for the last time that "I will not tolerate hatred, never speak to me again."

I suspect most of maga are the same way, they know full well what a massive piece of shit they are, the problem is that they are proud of it.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 37 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

That always reminds me of the "missing missing reasons" post. It's about estranged parents specifically, but I think the behavior shows up elsewhere. People's ego is too fragile to let them remember or admit some details, and their emotions are creating their whole reality.

https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I haven't seen that page before but its the way things are. My parents died last year and I didn't go to their funerals. They of course had a opportunity to reach out but doing so would have been an admission that they had done something wrong. I had a couple of their flying monkeys come at me from time to time. I just call them fools and move on with my life. That is what you have to do. You will never get resolution from narcs. They can never see any wrong they do as wrong. They will never seek help because they fear it.

Edit: I will say one of the things I miss about reddit is the raisedbynarcissists sub. It is where I discovered I wasn't alone. That in itself was validation for me. Reading about others in similar situations to mine really helped me end a life long cycle of depression, anxiety and anger.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

30But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? 31And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. 32I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 5

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 26 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They aren't repenting and don't consider themselves sinners.

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[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 17 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Red-Letter Christians

Red-Letter Christians is a non-denominational movement within Evangelical Christianity. "Red-Letter" refers to New Testament verses and parts of verses printed in red ink, to indicate the words attributed to Jesus without the use of quotation marks.

The organization was founded by Tony Campolo and Shane Claiborne in 2007 with the aim of bringing together evangelicals who believe in the importance of insisting on issues of social justice mentioned by Jesus (in red in some translations of the Bible). They believe Christians should be paying attention to Jesus's words and example by promoting biblical values such as social justice issues. These issues include the fight against poverty, the defense of peace, building strong families, respecting human rights and welcoming foreigners.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 90 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I think most atheists I know are much closer to the christian values that the church and people who consider themselves christians are. Almost funny how a religion that's supposed to be built on sharing, tolerance and love have produce to most selfish intolerent people filled with hatred.

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 93 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 60 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Just a quick reminder that stonetoss is a nazi

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Daily reminder that the correct response to people accusing someone of being a racist or a nazi isn't: "But is he really?" it's actually: "so what?

Holy f This statment could not be more wrong.

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[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 13 points 18 hours ago

Yes, pebbleyeet is a Nazi.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, that guy looks pretty athy, but is he really the athiest?

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[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Studies have consistently shown that atheists/agnostics are also as knowledgeable or more knowledgeable about world religions and even Christianity than Christians themselves, especially in the USA.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

This pissess me off so much. I was raised in christian family. And I mean motherfucking christian. I was taught from young age to show compassion, to help other, to help others up even if I don't personally like them. This is what it means to me to be christian. Compassion, love, and charity. Help others without asking for anything back.

Which is also core of fucking theoretical communism, so no wonder that also fell.

But it pissess me off when I meet people who are soooooo fucking hardcore believers, each sunday in church, always praising god and then they start the goddamn gossip of the day. Because Annie has a man of a slightly darker carnation, it's obvious Annie is abused, poor Annie but in the end Annie knew what she was doing, oh that poor hoe hope she finds god in her life. FFS these gossipin pseudo-christians should find god in their life -.-'

There's epigram in polish, fun little thing by Jan Kochanowski. Translation would be

"If you're not sinning, as you're telling me, why are you, dear, confessing so often?".

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 24 points 21 hours ago

MAGA Christians would be so pissed to learn about the real Jesus if they could read

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 29 points 18 hours ago

The broader truth is that you can't be Christian and be pro-Capitalist.

Once you remove Capitalism as the base, the entire "prosperity gospel" falls apart.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 12 points 16 hours ago

I am happily MAGA= I am happily fascist.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 23 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Jesus is definitely an amalgamation of a variety of stories and characters. I believe a real Jesus existed and was really killed by the state for what he did on what they celebrate as Palm Sunday, he mocked the emperor and was killed. He likely also mocked the Jewish leaders of his time and the Mystery Cults/public perception of Jews in his time.

Example; the Eucharist was an act of mockery towards Mystery Cult rituals and the negative stereotypes of Jews.

The Bible Jesus and much of his teachings are a culmination of thought put upon one character to tell a story like Gilgamesh (who was also a carpenter), any Roman-Greco hero, King Arthur. The story of the three wise men is, in my opinion, the idea that Eastern/foreign thought is introduced somehow namely Zoroastrianism. The dude lived in Palestine and likely alongside heavy trade routes into Rome, probably got exposed to interesting folk. He's born in both Nazareth and Bethlehem? Sounds to me like he's all these different folks smooshed into one story.

In my opinion, Jesus is anti-authoritarian first and foremost, likely some form of socialist. And likely a punk.

Kurt Cobain is probably closer to Jesus than any Republican.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Jesus is anti-authoritarian first and foremost

I mean, he did exhort his followers to sell their shirts and buy swords!

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[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 45 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Yes! Matthew 25:32 is one of the best examples of how warped MAGA & Christianity has become.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

I quote this passage a lot because it’s very explicit about going to heaven or not. It’s based on good acts, outlined briefly here. I don’t get how any MAGA person can read that and agree with our current policy. It’s anti-Christian.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 29 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

There was a news article a while ago about maga hats saying their church was repeating "liberal talking points", when the pastor was simply quoting Jesus.

https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706

Most of the maga hats don't care. They found their tribe and that's all that matters to them now.

Facts and quotes don't change people's minds. In-group belonging does. So long as they see you as an enemy, they won't listen to anything you say. We're all vulnerable to that, but maga hats seem especially vulnerable.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 minutes ago

MAGA still lives in the times between 1680 to 1880, mentally.

A time when people had 6 children on average, the mindset that we call "conservative" today worked out, men did blue-collar jobs while women stayed at home and cared for their children.

That was a prosperous, interesting time from the point of view of white settlers. MAGA still things back at that time, and thinks, if they can just behave the same way that people back then did, they'll have the same, prosperous way of life.

Fact is, that way of life stopped working because the circumstances changed. All of US is settled, there's no more space, people can't have 6 children anymore, it doesn't make sense for women to stay at home anymore.

MAGA has yet to realize that.

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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The rest of the passage hit harder. First, the setup

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Then your section about "the right". Then the rest

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Just now thinking about it?

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free - John 8:32

Also Trump wears diapers and smells horrible. Probably because he's the anti-christ or a reasonable facsimile.

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[–] somehacker@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

The Bible is also abundantly clear about being misogynist and homophobic (even in the New Testament). Skipping over those parts gives an evil book/religion a pass. Fuck Christianity.

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