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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Hey, if the stars and planets affect people's behaviour... Just saying.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 147 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Sorry to go all Godwin's law, but astrology can and has been used as a tool of oppression. Nazi Germany had a state-sponsored astrologer, Karl Ernst Krafft, appointed by Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess and Chief Propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Krafft was employed to write astrological propaganda that justified anti-semitism on the basis of celestial events. He was also tasked with using astrological observations to predict threats to the Führer Adolf Hitler and offer military advice.

Ultimately, it's not the stars and Moon that do the oppression, just whoever is in charge of divining their meaning, which is also pretty much how religious oppression works.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's almost as if certain types of people want to be assholes but want an irrefutable entity to say it's okay.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never trust someone else's imaginary friend over one's own.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Here's a thought: go one further. Kill all gods & masters.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We will only be free when the last monarch is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Repair world hunger with a woodchipper & fertilizer tumbler... Yeet The Rich.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Eh not giving up my kinks, but everyone needs to have the right to say no or it's not fun.

(sorry, the homebrewed anamist theism is too fun right now, and i got a puppy boy that's counting on me so... upvotes for thoroughness and enthusiasm)

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Religion is a lot like genitals, enjoy yours in places that people are cool with that happening but only share them with the willing and don't be an asshole just because someone else's are different.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Religion has been the single most detrimental invention of humankind since civilization's dawn.

To the other point, since nearly that same catalyzing point in our history, undying Truth itself can be found in the loving eyes of a goodest boy. (source: my own life has been saved by one on more than a few occasions and ways. 🙇🏼‍♂️🐕🥰)

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Nancy Reagan had an astrologer.

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Nancy Reagan has an astrologer.

Does he pack a shovel if she calls him?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Changed my verb tense. :)

Reagan too. Basically his whole second term was just his astrologer.

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Given the chance, Saturn would remove women's right to vote.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Typical Saturn energy.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Dammit Saturn I thought you were cool

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A belief system that makes claims which are demonstrably untrue is susceptible to being used to oppress people (or elevate them unnecessarily).

Astrology is bunk. Yes I am fun at parties.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It is legit frustrating to see "my superstition never hurt anyone" in the minority very quickly become "we're rounding up all the non-believers" as soon as that same group get an ounce of power.

FFS, waves hand at Israel. Also, the Mormons, the Scientologists, Jonestown...

[–] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago

Astrology has specifically oppressed swaths of women in the Indian subcontinent. Search for "manglik" for starters.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I’ve seen plenty of instances of people being treated unfairly and unjustly due to religious astrology beliefs. Especially women (of Indian descent, also Chinese but my experience is more limited there).

Extremely white bitch. I got it too!

It turns out shit people will use anything as an excuse to be shit. Makes dating hard(er).

my boy andres had a girl reject him just because he's a vigo

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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the moon doesn't oppress women, then why is the menstrual cycle the same length as the lunar cycle?

Checkmate, ~~atheists~~ astrologists!

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thats only cis women though.

And also some trans men.

And some genderqueers.

So...

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

in other news, you're not racist if you only oppress 98% of black people but allow a small number through.

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[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I dunno, I've heard many women and gays complaining that Mercury is retrograding them, or something. /s

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

Additionally, the stars and moon actually exist.

there's one star that is oppressing albino women and gays though

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Only people can oppress people.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A lot of folk religions exalt third genders and women into religious positions. It is the major world religions who put down women and third genders are the problem.

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One could argue that they lift people up, since there's a slight canceling of the effect of Earth's gravity when they're over head. Conversely, the opposite is true when they're on the other side of the planet.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The gravitational effect is only meaningful from the Moon and the Sun.

The Moon obviously affects the tides, and is very, very slowly making our days longer.

The Sun is ... you know, the center of the Solar System, defines our entire orbit, our year.

Nothing else is massive enough or close enough to have a meaningful gravitational impact.

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right, the post mentions "the Moon and stars." Last I checked, the Moon is still the Moon and the Sun is a star.

Also, I didn't say anything about the effect being meaningful. An effect that is non-zero is still an effect even if it is negligible.

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