El Chisme

No way in hell I'm reading all that.

many leftists are disappointed I didn't make a video about Palestine

Don't put the punchline in the opening sentence, geez

All she really had to say was that condemned the genocide of Palestinians and ended it there. The rest of the hand wringing and couching was completely unnecessary if she wanted to explain her views on Palestine.

Unless the point of her post wasn't to show her solidarity. It was, as usual, and condemnation of the left. It's actually ridiculous to spend so much time justifying Zionism when materially Zionism is supported by the wealthiest countries and the most powerful militaries in the world. When that fact changes, then we can work out what happens to the Israelis in Palestine. Until then, it's moot while the genocide machine is supported in full by the governments of the West.

Is the Clinton Foundation a major contributor to her patreon?

Also wanna add some unhinged lore to some of ardent followers. One of the mods of that sub is bardfinn, who can't go a minute without washing zionistpoints feet. Also the biggest biden defender out there. Endless spam about how you don't understand america and israel doing genocide or biden suporting due to civics actually, america has to be israel's ally cause civics.

Just cult worship

Then there is the more gross mod that modded antiwork and the contra sub, who did the same gross shit. But was also found out to be some sexpest. Then the sub quitely stopped mentioning any association or the discord. She would do endless screed she believes tara reade but still would vote biden cause that's the right thing to do. Lesser evil or whatever.

Her sub also denies downplays the american genocide of its indigenous population.

Under the bitterness section in reference to any anti Israel protest or action:

This campaign had the following effects: zero Palestine lives where saved. Not one fewer bomb or Bullet was fired by the IDF.

the next fucking paragraph

It may have slightly contributed to the reelection of Trump [...] Making protests against Israel [...] Less effective.

You just said protest already had zero effect. How are they less effective. Isn't she supposed to think things good like and yet she can't notice a glaring contradiction I noticed skimming this shit. I don't hate myself enough to closely read it all.

Anyway....

So basically, the same position as Ethan Klein? Israel is committing genocide, but it's antisemitic to oppose the genocide?

My arm is not long enough for the jerk off motion in my soul

we need to bully her

This is kind of really petty but for some reason the do i...? absolutely! does that mean.... no! should we ... blah blah ? heckin no etc... template way of posts are so incredibly common among redditors and I refuse to read it because it gives me flashing images of libs grinning with a smug aura. maybe I should log out for a while and pretend people who makes excuses for the imperialists don't exist.

lol holy shit bitch you might as well just run for office as a bluedog dem and get some of that sweet AIPAC money

go be the new Fetterman, but for MD. then just fully shift to be Blair White 2.0 (we know how much you envy her) and end your career wrapped in the Israeli flag on a rooftop screaming at sensible people

Their horus of anger

Over such insignificant thing as, check notes... genocide.

Doom

Bipartisanship

Sense of futility

I wonder how that person can be even considered anything but a rightwing

What a shitty shitty person. She needs her internet money embargoed so she has to work at like...a store.

Jesus, scurrying to her redditor sycophants because if she posts this to twitter she'll be rightfully ripped apart is a level of cowardice even I never expected of her but here we are. We've discovered a new level of being washed up.

Oh she said the exact crap right after burgerreich elections. About how commies didn't want to vote cause they want the politicians to have the same positions as them immediately. The position being ending genocide.

I don't even want to read this crap. She and her zionist fans should fuck off. Her subreddit is a mini klan hangout for a while.

It seems people feel betrayed by her and her platforming of liberal Zionism, but Natalie has shown herself to be a liberal since the inception of her channel and rise to fame. Her presentation was interesting - perhaps deradicalizing - during the early/mid Trump administration in 2017-19, since fascist politics, aesthetics, and culture were brazenly becoming normalized by the likes of the New York Times, the internet, and media at large.

But her time has past, no? Sure she still makes a very lucrative existence but her celebrity is very niche and echo chamber-y of people who are unwilling to challenge society to begin with.

I suppose this post by Natalie is a useful anecdote of evidence for the examination of liberal fetishism of respectability politics.

Ultimately this appeals to those who are unwilling and incapable of doing anything helpful for Palestine; it seems her supporters aren't activists to begin with but passive consumers of the likes of r/neoliberal waiting to be pacified and reassured that the status quo of their privileged section of humanity is still extant.

I sort of understand how streamers who broadcast 8 hours a day develop a parasocial audience of sycophants, but how does someone who posts once a year accrue an army of freaks like this? The comments being like “THANK YOU QUEEN OF NUANCE FOR VALIDATING MY EQUIVOCATING OVER GENOCIDE, WE HAVE AWAITED YOUR MESSAGE FOR MANY MOONS”. Fucken pathetic.

Your strategy of endlessly critiquing power pales in comparison to my strategy of critiquing the powerless endlessly.

how the hell do you go from her video on how "the west" isn't really a coherent thing to this?

more like Natalie wrong

If she is writing this a month after the 7th of October it would work, but we are at the point where the Israeli government talks about concentrating 600k people into a camp build on the ruins of Rafah that would be used to vet people for eventual transfer.

Tldr: I am self obsessed and will acknowledge that there is a brutal genocide going on. HOWEVER, I personally know some zionists who actually count as people and opposing a ethnostate would hurt their feelings whereas Palestinian lives are of negotiable. Also, my life got worse because the ‘online left’ single handedly got Trump elected by focusing too much on not wanting to support genocide without being able to stop it, so opposing it is bad.

Tldr of the tldr: I just wanna be at brunch and not have to think about this.

I aint reading all that but the subsection titles just make it sound like she's depressed.